I wouldn’t be surprised if some regular aircrew are not scathingly sarcastic if an RAFAC ‘aircrew’ start to become the big I am. Maybe there should have been a subtle alteration as until recently the aircrew awarded RPAS wings were different to mainstream aircrew.
Expecting this when some 28 year old WOs rock up on camp with T&Ls next year
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Keeping the faith, I see…
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You know what I mean 
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And none of the experience, bearin,g presence or dignity to carry it off. To be a WO you have to have all the above qualities. I can see more than a few RAF personnel having a problem with this and going through their CoC to complain.
Remember the SWO is first amongst equals.
Please clarify. Has the ‘new’ RPAS pilot brevet been withdrawn from RAF issue?
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Yup. They get the standard pilot wings now. https://twitter.com/AOC_1_Group/status/1126524879430406144?s=19
Some strong debate on the issue on this thread https://twitter.com/RoyalAirForce/status/1126518790072750085?s=19
My sentiments exactly.
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In fairness. They are “aircrew”.
Just not (in any sense) to the standard, expertise or authority level or RAF frontline aircrew.
Easy fix. Would be a differnt aircrew badge, along the lines of all the different varieties the RAF used to have.
No-one could (or would in my opinion) complain about a CFAV aircrew wearing some wings with a clear identifying branch symbol or letter.
Demonstrates the branch they are in, but also the appropriate level.
Else, its the ultimate walty mcwalty case sadly…
Separately…
Took some cadets gliding last month, had to endure a 50 hour sprog trying to enlighten me on all his quals. They didnt take kindly when i asked his ratings and if they could fly at night, in IMC, outside the circuit etc etc.
Worst kind of waltism… walts who have a semi qual!
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DIs don’t get specialist rank slides with pace sticks on 
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So exactly what they do have, the aircrew rank is different having “RAF Air Cadets” in massive letters and a different “branch” identifier with a G wings.
It cant be walting if the Air Vice Marshal is telling you what to wear. It would be walting if they were worn of their own initiative which they aren’t.
That there is a cracking idea!!!
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Could just light the blue touchpaper of course and point out that in the RAF aircrew rank slides mean that you’re not a proper sergeant, and thus having no eagles would be seen as a step up.
(runs)
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Why don’t you go all in and tell the snowdrops that they aren’t proper Cpls?!
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Always good for a laugh.
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They could have silver bells & diamond-encrusted lettering - but they are NOT aircrew.
Just use to wave our pay slips at the jealous ones, saying that they could have applied too… 
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Chambers defines aircrew as
Sounds like what they do?
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The definitive word is ‘in’ not 5000 miles away.
Dictionary definition does not tie up with the context of extensive RAF trg in order to be awarded brevets.