Yes, the most recent version of the return guide says they are mandatory inside for all RAFAC events. Also the comdt sent a letter to ask staff reminding them of this.
Interesting.
Not full time staff so I havenāt seen this, and only recently managed to get back into the volunteering side.
Iām surprised this is still the case to be fair, most establishments seem to be on the personal preference side of things.
Indeed this is the case. I think a lot of some volunteers (and perm staff) either donāt know this rule is still in place, or know about it but chose to ignore it.
No legal basis on the real world any more for it.
I donāt blame them. I personally detest masks and seeing how cadets and staff are with them, feel they are a genuine barrier to communication and learning.
So I guess what grinds my gears is the opposite of Cadet04ā¦
Weāve been over this, thereās also no legal basis for making people wear berets and yet we do that with no issue.
Exactly this. I donāt 100% agree with the current rules, but the comdt has explained his reasoning, which he didnāt need to do, so Iāll stick to them.
Essentially it boiled down to the fact that cadetsā education must come first, and if wearing a mask reduces their chance of catching/passing on Covid, and therefore missing school, then itās worth it to carry on wearing them.
Iāve found it really hard to teach wearing a mask. In other settings teachers/instructors/leaders are permitted to remove them during teaching subject to distancing from the group.
Donāt disagree with either of you.
I understand the house rules. Donāt insult my intelligence by going on about how uniform isnāt a legal basis. Iām well aware of house rules.
The arguements reference masks, vaccines and distancing could be argued for ages on a separate thread with nothing productive being done. Thatās not my point.
As said, I despise wearing them. Iāve always been upfront with that when asked. But personal views aside, I donāt agree that cadets should be forced to wear them inside at all times.
A damn health basis for it though and we are a safety first organisation and culture so surely that is sufficient?
Appreciate that, but please see my previous reply. This arguement could be argued for months without anything productive being said.
The health arguement could be said for many things. Respiratory illness going round, so why was I still wading through a blanket of cigarette smog from the hospital staff everytime I had to visit my baby in hospital?
This arguement never goes well. Iāve made my view, I think masks are counter productive to teaching, both from an instructor and learner point of view.
Others do think differently and I fully understand their views on it, admittedly I do feel my view is tainted from my sonās hospital stay and him not seeing my wife and I together, or even our faces in his first four months of life.
I would rather not bring this arguement round again. Its been done to death, Iāve stated my view after another post.
General annoyance more than GMGā¦
The RAF social media feedā¦ Not the content. Just the amount of comments from āpoppy placement expertsā
āLovely photo, but the poppy should be on the leftā¦ Where the heart isā¦ Leaf at 11ā¦ā
Grrrā¦
Leaf at 11 experts really do GMG, the Poppy didnāt even used to have a leaf, itās still doesnāt in Scotland!
I never wear one with a leaf for this reason.
Small minded turds those sort of people.
And most of the people making those sort of comments wouldnāt ever help a veteran/war widow/orphan in need if asked.
Leaf at 11 had a bloke lecture me about it last week when I was collecting, because my leaf was at some random ātimeā, I just nodded politely moved the leaf just to shut him up and then moved it to about 3.30 because I could
RBL standard bearers (at least when I was one) arenāt meant to wear a poppy on the jacket at all. The stem and leaf are removed and the poppy sits behind the RBL cap badge on the beret. The only things permitted on the jackets are personal medals and the RBL membership lapel pin (Ć la 1984).
I havenāt checked the regs since I passed the standard on, but Iāve been at events and seen poppies and other lapel pins worn in all manner of ways by standard bearers and said ā¦ nothing, because itās not my place and Iām not a ****
I havenāt worn one in years. I hate the whole thing these days, itās less and less about remembrance, more about being seen to be remembering.
Our dress regs advise the same for banner drill and arms drillā¦ But itās optional.
I had to remind the RWO a few years back that the poppy is optional at all times!
If Iām honest I tend not to wear oneā¦ I have a tendancy of accidently destroying it within minutes and thats in civvies alsoā¦ Iāll donate the money just not take a poppy