Supervisory Care Directive Published

Getting them there/back!

Yes, but this is how the logic can be picked apart. CFAV shouldn’t be alone in a car with cadets and cadets must be in the back seat… but we can put a pilot alone with a cadet side by side.

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As much as I agree, I’m going to avoid asking the question in case the answer is “you’re right, we can’t possibly have a pilot 1:1 with a cadet, better stop that” /hj

If you want this stuff to go away….

How much does the cadet bit of AEF cost, and how much does the gliding structure cost? Be funny if an MP/minister asked CAS why MOD was splashing cash on a flying capability that could no longer be used because a fairly junior CS had rewritten a CP policy without thinking about it properly…

If you want to survive, learn politics.

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Funnily enough, a regular friend of mine was on the exec shadow board when this came up. I can’t remember the figure, but it was in the millions and the shadow board wanted to spend it bringing accommodation up to standard instead.

Fortunately, the actual exec board is more future-focused (not that accommodation doesn’t desperately need sorting!)

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It is a valid question.

Though we can’t run the organisation based on cost alone, flying is clearly the most expensive activity. I think there was another thread on flying, but does it bring sufficient value?

I’d wager the impact on whether or not someone succeeds in joining up as an RAF pilot doesn’t hang in whether they did an AEF sortie in a Tutor.

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Personally, it had no impact on me: I did whatever the gliding thing was where you went to a VGS for 10 days and sent solo - it only told me I had no interest in being a pilot - the big pusher was AT, station camps, and flying on service aircraft like the C-130’s, Chinooks and Gazelles.

It was being in the Mil that was interesting and exciting for me, the individual flying was entirely meh…

My point was that one CS, with the acquiescence of HQAC have negated all that spend as surely as if they’d taken a petrol bomb to a shipping container full of fifties….

However, there is no exemption in the SCD for AEF or VGS flying. As things stand cadets cannot fly either with an instructor (who don’t forget may not be a CFAV), or fly solo as the supervisory requirements are not met. The SCD isn’t suspended just because a cadet is in an aircraft.

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What happens to any flight staff cadets? Are they still able to fly cadets generally? And if they can, surely they can’t now.

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I’m of the view that someone just needs to take a grip of this and say “it’s completely unworkable in its current form, we need to pull it and not persevere with the idea of “test over summer and take feedback for amendments”.

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Can we ask the person who has just written the tri-service heat illness policy to take this on as their next project?

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I wondered exactly the same thing!!!

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They probably had to actually engage with the end users. That’s the benefit of the SCC being a charity, not a branch of the services. We don’t have to blindly take rules from the RN.

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I’ve been told it’s getting binned…but I was led to believe it’s a draft pending feedback anyway…

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No sign of this here.
We’ve been told to work with it, and throw in exemption requests where necessary.

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Finally getting around to reading this… I’m only on page 11 and my head is hurting.

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So from what I’ve read thus far you need both Male & Female staff on any occasion where there are both male & female cadets, this includes parade nights - but they can be “On Call” not that this is defined in terms of requirement.

Of 22 units in the Wing…
1 has no female staff at all
10 have 2 or less, leaving very little cover for absence

This is just raw numbers - at this stage I’ve not dug into the attendance records of the staff listed on Bader as attached to the units.

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My suggestion to my sector OC recently was that Sqns contact their respective RC every time they don’t have female cover and they’ll soon get sick.

I also suggested in the feedback that the policy is stating female and male - there are way more genders than this on BADER - so what do we do then?

(I’m not getting into a gender debate or pointing negativity towards the gender choices in this post, but why is a policy restricting activities based on 2 genders when on BADER, there are several. What do we do then?)

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Haven’t seen the SCD’s wording, but does it refer to sex or gender?