Supervisory Care Directive Published

Gender, so I guess I’m only allowed to supervise the one non-binary cadet I’m aware of…

(/facetious)

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To be fair, it may be referring to Sex. I can’t remember exactly and it won’t load for me.

It’s still a talking point though and will raise questions around the wording of it.

As I say, this isn’t the place for debate of it.

I never see much point in the ‘on call’ option for staff - we’re all volunteers and live lives. What happens if there is an emergency that takes away that on-call staff member? I get the need for it and also the small chance of that happening, but still.

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It uses the word gender, but I think it means sex.

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It certainly makes the policy more sensible to interpret as such, and frankly it needs all the “let’s choose to interpret it in the most sensible way possible” it can get

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Para 8 point g stated “cadets of mixed gender” . Looks like you are off the hook unless that one cadet turns up for an event.

You can’t really tell a cadets sex without breaking other policies anyway

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If you follow the advice from the safety centre on the heat injury immediate action you will get an idea.

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And to be clear (not that I’m saying you’re disagreeing with this advice, but there will be some readers who do) this is absolutely the correct advice if dealing with heat stroke - we can maintain modesty as best we can but the immediate priority is cooling!

(Apologies for minor thread drift!)

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Considering the policy, I think everyone should absolutely comply with what it states and not what it means (or you think it means).

If it means following poor wording then they need to write their policy better without leaving room for ambiguity

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You would think, given the massive fuss caused by the (legally) incorrect interpretation of the Equalities Act over Sex Vs Gender over the last 15 years and the impact that the Supreme Courts judgement has had throughout society and in particular on youth groups - that the high quality people that HQAC gets to write and sign off it’s child protection policies would have sought to be crystal clear on what they define as Sex, and what they define as Gender..?

I mean, you’d think that, wouldn’t you?

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Just bumping this back up so it doesn’t drop from people’s minds

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Poll time.

I’ve an activity next week (evening, 2.5 hours) that I’m not going to have female cover available for.

Do I:

  • Cancel the activity
  • Restrict to non-female cadets only
  • Restrict to male cadets only
  • Carry on regardless
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(For sake of argument, I don’t have anyone that can be on-call within 30 minutes distance either)

If you have no one within 30 mins who can be on call then in theory you need RC permission now to run the event?

I’d probably carry on regardless as we’ve always done….

On the grounds that the date to adopt this is not until 1st October?

Its not a fair poll. No option for CoC approval and in the context of the SDC, male and non-female are the same thing as it is not specific over Sex and Gender and mixes up their use.

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Kind of depends what you are hoping to achieve …

same old same old ……then carry on or the male only option…
trying to highlight the issue ….cancel and CC every man and his dog as high as you dare saying why.

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The only way this goes away is because life as CAC gets too unpleasant to allow this toilet circus to continue.

Sweaty phone calls from RC’s to say that their kids 18th birthday BBQ has been interrupted 14 times so far with OC’s ringing them up for permission/advice.

Maybe Wing Commanders getting bored of date night being interrupted accidentally putting CAC’s phone number online…

I don’t doubt the hierarchy is genuinely appalled by this catastrophe and wants to get it sorted out - but you do run faster when your shirt is on fire.

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A post was merged into an existing topic: You know what really grinds my gears? The Gears Strike Back

You seek dispensation from the RC as required - if you just cancel this it won’t change it has to be flagged to the RCs to effect the desired change.

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I’m not the one running it so easy for me to say but things like this in my opinion should restrict to male cadets only and direct all parents of female cadets to call up the chain to complain about the policy

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