STOP šŸ›‘ Car Parking

With reduced activities and fun things, we can provide our ā€˜Bubble Wrappedā€™ cadets, we would be lowering subs at this rate, but then we would struggle to kit out our cadets for the handful of activities we can do that havenā€™t been dried up with the ā€˜no fun spongeā€™ which would mean a higher cost for parents having to buy all the kit that we normally provide.

I understand not all Sqns do marshaling in these warmer months but I know that some Sqns do and are often small communities that rely on cadets help. But as I have seen from this forum, itā€™s a bombshell that no one was expecting. How many staff members from Sqns that rely on things like this are not on here having their rightful moan?

Should we start a bingo card for the next things that will be halted, the winner will be the one that works in the ivory towers :no_mouth:

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Rumour has it that drill is being closely looked at. Too much risk of a cadet fainting and injuring themselves when they fall.

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And any relationship within the local community has just been damaged perhaps fatally. The RAF use the RAFAC as part of their ā€˜blueā€™ footprint where they are nonexistent, so this reflects on the RAF as well.

The ACF/SCC will benefit.

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Iā€™m doing damage control today - fortunately the farming community has a soft spot for the idea of folk being stiffed by people who live a long way away and who nothing about real life - but weā€™ve lost friends over this, weā€™ve really stuffed people,and weā€™ll be really lucky if we get invited to this stuff again.

The financial loss is simply a disaster, but weā€™ve lost stuff like a free stall at the county show, ā€˜this years charityā€™ at the YFC (Ā£700) when we did it last, I donā€™t fancy ringing up farming acquaintances to ask if we can use land for field craft or camping tripsā€¦

It means nothing to people in blue suits with nice pensions, but for us itā€™s lifeblood - but they donā€™t care, and they donā€™t care that they donā€™t care.

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Considering what happened with RIAT, is it possible that this is relevant to the stop order?

I canā€™t remember which Wing it was (Iā€™ve been in 4 in the last four years, thanks RAF :roll_eyes:) but one of them had already brought in a restriction of cadets carparking must be aged 16+. Although not ideal, it would have made for a better compromise than a total ban.

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Who knows because yet again we donā€™t have any information worth a damn.

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I am going to be exceptionally pleased when those that get invited to RAF or other unitsā€™ families days get told we canā€™t help them, then watch as regulars have to do the work. I really hope all those organising feed back their displeasure to AOC22 group which is allegedly where this direct ban has come from.

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Geez when I was a wet behind the ears cadet we used to marshal Aircraft at the PFA Rally at Canfield.

I remember standing in front of a Yak 52 holding it on the taxi wayā€¦ā€¦ā€¦now that will never happen again

WHAT A DAY!!!

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Shudders at the recollection of the PFA at Cranfield, althought a highlight was Sandy running up his Lightening.

If as has been sugested this is from higher up than HQRAFAC then it may impact othwr CFs also.

Do we know if they have received a stopstopstop?

If not.
We know its local to RAFAC only.
Therefore evenmore likely an olā€™tone death spasm.

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I remember cadets marshalling Hawks at Valley many years ago whilst the FLM stood and watched.

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Age 15, helped load live AIM-9Lā€™s on a pair of RNoAF F-16ā€™s at Bodo during a NATO ex - it was going up to harass a BEAR F that was sitting 20 miles off the coast, sunny day, we could see it with the maked eyeā€¦

Marshalled them out to the runway, stood 60ft away when they lit the burners. The pair were supersonic at 30,000ft before my legs stopped shaking.

I bet Boring Tone would have loved thatā€¦

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So had a thought as itā€™s Armed Forces day.

Does this means Cadets, CFAVs or CivCom can now longer be used for road closures for

  • Remberance Parade
  • Battle of Britain Parades
  • ATC Sunday.

And the rest.

This is a different risk to parking cars in a field but itā€™s still traffic marshalling of a fashion.

However the marshalling component is often done by sqns themselves.

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That question has been asked in VOP regarding road closures

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Cadets at Coltishall when the Jaguars were being readied for deployment to GW 1 had cadets painting them in desert pink, ground crews taped and plugged off the vital areas and the cadets painted them.

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I think they also got a massive rollicking via the UN for the use of children in warfare.

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Werenā€™t the suggestions that it was above HQ that it was AOC 22 Group?

Donā€™t believe so, nothing heard this end. UN Convention was not ratified until 1999, GW1 was in 1991ā€¦

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That was what was said, but if the issue here is itā€™s too dangerous to insure, that decision may be MOD, as they are the ones indemnifying us. Surely that should also effect the ACF too?