Other youth works have a genuine opportunity to receive a state award through the civil list, we do not, instead being fobbed off with pointless certificates.
What he said.
In addition to which Police Cadet Leaders have the KPM open to them and they (and Royalty Protection Officers are some of the very few I’ve seen receive a state award without needing to be senior.
It’s been covered elsewhere that other youth worker have much easier access to state awards, which are blocked to CFAV on grounds of either not being senior ranking enough or the military division of the Order of the British Empire not including anything at the BEM level.
I would also like to point out that the Scout Association do award medals and badges, other organisations like the Masons have medals (or jewels or whatever they call them) and RBL members are increasingly buying their own medals (even though this is officially frowned upon).
I was chatting with a friend about this (they’re a CFAV, I don’t make a habit of chatting about this stuff to the others in the bar 
) and she pulled up a pretty interesting quote she then shared with me (from your honours guide):
OBJECT OF HONOURS AND AWARDS
So I guess that acting rank they pinch back the moment you leave post is all you should expect (and be grateful!)
Congratulations on working really hard. Here is… more work and higher stakes.
So turn it on its head - honour & awards are there to recognised work above & beyond the substantive rank of Fg Off as all the extra ranks are optional.
One thing to note regarding the jewels is that they are linked to attain a certain “rank” or joining a certain group in 9/10 cases.
Individual lodges do award jewels for 100th, 200th and 300th anniversaries though.
There’s also only one UGLE Jewel I know of which is awarded for exceptional service. I’ll have a think for its actual name but it’s incredibly rare, as in low double digits max ever awarded.
Edit: It’s called the ‘Grand Master’s Order of Services to Masonry’.
The Canadian air cadets issue their own medals to cadets, so there’s precedent for it in the commonwealth
What about instead of a medal we could also or instead be ‘mentioned in dispatches’. This is a lower form of reward than a full medal, yet still comes with visual recongition.
There could be a monthly or Quarterly list from HQAC.
Cost is minimal.
Ribbon with a leaf on/ or something similar. Not a bad idea at all.
MID has an operational focus, but this got me thinking about the King’s Commendation for Valuable Service (in the Air). Unfortunately, even that is for meritorious service “in an operational theatre” (Medals: campaigns, descriptions and eligibility - GOV.UK).
They dont award the ISO anymore since the 1990s although it still exists. maybe something in the vein of the “Imperial Service Order” although with appropriate differences and likely significantly lower down the chain in terms of precedence/Order of Wear
For most appointments to it in the only grade of companion is a minimum service of 25 years (with certain exemptions) and also has done some meritorious service to earn it with a limited number of appointments to the order in total. Not automatic but has a minimum service element as well so the precedence exists
Not to be confused with the medal of the imperial service order which is still awarded in some civil service departments (including the MOD) requirements of that is at least 25 years as a E1/E2 or equivalent administrative civil servant and also have retired.
I think New Zealand has done a good twist to the ISO haven’t they? Is it for voluntary service generally?
I feel like we may have even discussed that.
There is already a civilian version of that award
Mentioned earlier in the thread - their ATC personnel are eligible for this.
The ribbon looks cool too, seemingly as a take on traditional Maori colours Queen's Service Medal - Wikipedia
That ribbon looks like something from the Third Reich, but a cool award nonetheless.
Which raises another question.
What should the ribbon on the new medal look like?
The three service colours but in a V?
CFM colours but in a V?
On a side note anyone know the symbolism/rationale behind the colours for the CFM?
Yellow seems to be volunteer.
Green seems to be armed services.
Dark blue, light blue, red are the services.
Edit: I’m happy to be corrected. I can’t find a reference, but I’m sure I once read something the indicated roughly what I’m claiming here.
VRSM and KVRM both lean into green and yellow + tri services colours.
The best i can find is:
The ribbon comprises the red, dark blue and light blue colours of the 1939-45 star representing the Army, Air Force and Navy bounded by equal bands of sunshine yellow representing ‘youth’ with a central green stripe for ‘growth’. This medal is supplied on a concealed single pin, ready to wear
Found: awardmedals.com
That’s their fake cadet forces medal that they sell to anyone who spent time in the cadet forces. Not to be confused with the genuine one issues by HM
Agreed. But the colours are the same…