Don’t… Just don’t start
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Sorry(ish). The Remy Martin XO Special may have been poured liberally tonight.
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Can anyone explain why you need to be in uniform to do the modules 1-3, which aren’t about drill or uniform, given you will be sat at home?
I mean a real justification, not simply “we’re a uniformed organisation” because that isn’t actually meaningful in a group of adults in their own homes.
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Nope. Other than the course photo and break out rooms we had the camera off
I wonder how you would do this if you were appointed since March and hadn’t had your initial kitting yet
You wouldn’t. Seems silly to expect people in uniform all day for an online course. I don’t think there’s a single person I know who’s working from home who has to wear anything specific.
Or anything
I’ve people who have company laptops with built in webcams that I’ve not seen since March, so who knows what they are wearing
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I wore shorts and t shirt throughout the whole summer while working from home. Even now, I’ve just changed the shorts for jeans.
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One up on me… Rocking buzz light year loungers on a call with the board this morn!
I think they want the course to have that military feel to hence the uniform
But then I also see the other side, I’m confident there would be moans and groans though if it was a smart casual course.
I started my first proper professional job a few months ago and was shocked by how casually everyone was dressed while working from home 
Our office is full of scruffy people all the time. I think I’m the only one that regularly wears a tie and isn’t in jeans…!
I think the idea behind it for ATF though is that by pulling on the uniform it’s setting you into the right frame of mind to take it seriously and to not just doss about.
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That’s a fair point actually. Well put.
My office, not in UK , only have to wear shoes with jeans when meeting externals.
Really freaked me out at first as well as their dress codes being completely the opposite from my previous job in the city. Business dress being jeans and a polo shirt and casual being a suit with tie 🤷
I presented virtually at an international industry conference a few weeks ago rocking a pair of shorts and homer simpson slippers with my hideously patterned shirt😂
This is the sort of rubbish logic which has led to the tie surviving into the 21st century.
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Oh. I like to wear my suit and tie to work… like I say, I’m the only one, but I like it!
I’m fairness, ATF didn’t say you had to be in a tie!
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I do like to pop on a tie when going to important meetings as for me it does serve a psychological purpose. And obviously in court as well, I remember having to cover last minute for a colleague who was taken ill at court. I was in jeans and T-shirt and had nothing else in the office. The judge was absolutely fine about my attire (a long way from judges refusing to hear advocates in brown shoes) but it did make me feel rather uncomfortable. So I do think there is something to be said about dressing up in certain situations. Although normally in the office I’m in short sleeves and no tie
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I didnt realise you were another of the uber race of pen wavers!
Just exactly how many of you on here are there? 
No wonder the courts are backed up the ying yang if you lot have enough time to be on here as much as you are!
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I have done all three modules of the new virtual OIC albeit 2 months apart. All I wore was my short sleeved shirt and whatever else I wanted.
They are only looking at anything above waist height anyway so there’s no need for anything else.
on my first day they asked most of us to stand up and prove we weren’t wearing pink frilly skirts, they didn’t at all for the rest of the course.
Just out of interest, could one not just claim there was a fault with the camera on the pc/or that you’ve ordered one but it’s yet to arrive?