RAFAC Attitude Survey 2020

Well all Bader emails have just received an invite to submit email addresses for anyone who has been missed.

I wonder what’s on today’s episode “Teflon Gets It Wrong… Again”?

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Dear Colleagues,

Despite numerous efforts at sending links to the CFAV Attitude Survey, we still appear to be getting the following returns from the email addresses of some colleagues:

Email address does not exist

Inbox not accepting messages right now

All personnel who have not yet received an email are requested to email your details to this address: surveys “at” aircadets.org

The switch between ‘colleagues’ and ‘personnel’ is a jarring one.

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Well if I could have seen that coming, I must be on for a few lottery jackpots.

Wild conjecture isn’t working out for you, so perhaps pure luck in a game of chance is more your thing.

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It’s sent to the email address you have on SMS

Anyone still yet to receive a survey? Never got one, emailed the above but still nothing.
Some of our sqn staff got multiple links, others like me are still waiting.

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Besides question containing simply they failed to address those of use that have secondary duties, no mention what’s so ever.
Lost track of how many I have completed over the years, so far none have changed anything.

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True that…

Also of note of course (and as has already been mentioned) is the rather short-sighted selection of “hours per month” - 10, 20, 60+ (or whatever they came up with) it pretty limiting.
60+ hours a month? Aye… and THEN some!

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I read that as ‘per week’

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I remember the question not quite fitting either, though it was a while ago and I don’t remember the specifics.
Wasn’t it asking for the amount of time I spend on cadet activities? I took that to mean actual engagement on cadet business, but not including the significant time I choose to spend tinkering with cadet-related matters, which can add a few more hours per week.

If you include answering cadet based questions on Internet forums it can get significant indeed :smiley:

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Just a hunch, but they probably aren’t…

I can’t recall the wording either but I read it as including all the time which I spend on RAFAC-related work. i.e. all the time which, but for the fact I’m a CFAV, would be used for something else.

In that therefore I include all travelling time on RAFAC business as well as all the time spent during the days/evenings at home when I’m working on admin, and also all time spent on general Sqn improvements (such as the occasional days spent deep-cleaning the building, trialing new room-layouts, &). An average 60 hours a month is a drop in the ocean.

Worth noting of course that our minimum 12 hours per month does include travel time to the Sqn. Two days a week I leave the house at 1500 and get home at 2230 - on ‘normal parade night’ business.
12 hours a month? Piece of cake…

I’m absolutely certain that I’m not alone (perhaps not many leave the house quite as early for a parade night but certainly many put in equal hours elsewhere during the week/month).

The mere fact that they chose 60+ as the top answer rather implies that they have no clue just how much time many of us have to put in just to keep on top of everything.

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Finally got my link this morning after many chases, also not 100% aligned to my role in the CCF and ATC - but heyho done and submitted

although i don’t disagree I am not sure what value there is listed 60, 80, 100hrs/month has.

60 hours a month is already 1.5 working weeks (based on a M-F 40 hour week) and is on its own a lot of time to be spending on an hobby as a volunteer.
I am not saying that those who do put in 80 or 100 hours a month should not be recorded (or indeed recognised) but to be finding an extra week and half in the month around everything else speaks for itself as a significant commitment of time to complete a hobby.

It also didn’t take into account whether you needed to put that amount of time in, or wanted to put that much time in.

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now that is the real question.

back in my shooting days I was committing to a full weekend each month for 10 months of the year just on the delivery of Wing shooting opportunities - that was just the activity. that didn’t take into account the hours of coordination to make each weekend happen occurring in the background (which alone I predict would be close to 12 hours/month) then there was the usual twice weekly attendance and Squadron based weekend commitments.

All which i was happy to do and “wanted” to as I wanted to see shooting happen in the Wing - but to a degree, “needed” to be done to make sure the weekends happened as no one else would.

Yeah… but If the answer 100+ per month was there and enough people selected it… perhaps different questions might be asked.

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Why is this necessary?
Too much travel to and from units. People to be told to attend local unit only.
Too much admin, better hire more admin staff.

Etc etc.

In other words, they wouldnt like the answers given.

That and the CI now Plt Off who authored it, probably didn’t even consider the amount of time some put in.

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I suppose that would depend entirely on what it is they are hoping to glean from this whole survey.

True, though perhaps different questions should be asked…
Like:
“Blimey! I didn’t realise that we rely so heavily on volunteer’s good will… How can we ease their burden?”
“Can we find a way to properly remunerate people for HTD travel via public transport? For example, by paying their actual costs.”

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I would love to imagine if we only did the proscribed minimum 12 hours per month and that included weekend activities, which has always been an anomaly?

Asking how they have shows HQAC accepts the reality of ‘life’ as a CFAV uniformed or not, which HQAC is responsible for. I look at our WSO (very active, but not intrusive), he’s out 4 nights a week and then given he’s a shooter, most weekends, plus he still does things with his old cadet unit as they are short of qualified staff. If he said enough’s enough …

I think it would be more valid to ask when people “do cadet stuff”, ie tick all that apply in 2 hour blocks throughout the day and on what days each of these occur. This can be : reading/sending Air Cadet emails, searching s/p, making resources for training, organising activities, doing ATC SM, most of which should be (given the volunteering nature of our involvement) largely restricted to the hours of say 1830 to 2230 one or two nights a week. Since the advent of SM and reliance on email people’s time away from the squadron is more easily disturbed and gets eaten into, which means never really switching off.

Would a more analytical look into CFAV’s cadet working time be too scary for people? Rather than wildly guessing “I do x hours” far in excess of 12 hours without acknowledging how much and when. The latter is the concerning bit as this has the potential of using our employer’s time, ie when we are being paid to do a job. Although a more analytical view would be an eye opener for HQAC and aid the understanding why people say they feel so stressed by being a CFAV. Unfortunately whatever HQAC see regarding the time people put in, I could not see them being concerned in the slightest.

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