Proposed Changes to Civilian Committees

A squadron I was associated with had circa £25,000 in the bank. We were told we could only spend £750 a year as that was the interest and we couldn’t spend the capital, as when it was gone, it was gone. Wing intervention was required.

Sounds like a very lazy committee

The problem with sweeping statements is that they tend to be wrong.
Every citte is different, areas, cadets, size of unit etc etc etc
While some committees do have too much, who is to say what is too much. A large city sqn with multiple vehicles, trailers, kit etc should have a larger contingency pot compared to a Valleys village sqn with 20 cadets and two lumps of coal to rub together.

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I was wondering how long it would take for that to get ‘leaked’…

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Appreciate the share. I think I now have more questions then I did before though :rofl:

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Of all the things that need fixing, they chose this!

How about sorting out gliding and parachuting first FFS!!!

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So, that seems to suggest that squadrons already registered as full charities can stay as they are?

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This was my thinking, given the answer relating to SNI. If the reason they don’t need to change is because they’re already full charities, why can’t England CWCs just become a full charity? And if they are already a full charity, do they still need to move to a wing based system?

I don’t know and can’t see if there are further pages to that. It would be my preference. Given we still operate in cash in some ways, I don’t see them saying “this will be easy” being true.

I might suggest it to my committee chair at our next meeting.

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The comments about the risk of fraud etc, surely the Wing committee are just as liable to commit criminality as anybody else.

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Yes, but the logic is that fewer people involved reduces the chances of one of the people being bad.

Of course, you also increase the damage done if they are once you centralise everything.

And if we cant get trustees for a few thousand pounds per sqn, who is going to volunteer to support £50k+ combined totals?

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Also what happens if, playing devils advocate, a Wing committee runs off with the cash leaving no money for squadrons to insure their SOVs, pay for broadband etc? Is it underwritten higher up?

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So, does this mean that sqn committees will be desolved? Repurposed?

Repurposed to focus on raising funds and supporting the other pillars? Just not managing those funds.

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Or informed for the next financial year ‘your target is xxxxxxxxx £’ or we dissolve you as not meeting the Wing standard required.

I would very strongly challenge any suggestion of such should it come about, considering each squadron’s funds should be remaining their own…

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Slowly slowly the mission creep will start, and the next, how about making all Squadron non-public assets into Wing assets such as radios etc in particular when they dissolve Squadrons?

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This was the exact point i made further back.

  1. What is happening with exisiting sqn civ coms?

  2. If a sqn is or becomes a charity is it exempt from this nonsense?

  3. This pre loaded card. Am i as sqn oc going to have to go cap in hand to some faceless turd on a wing civ com and ask everytime i want some money on it?

  4. Are whqs going to start looking at everything we spend and questioning? Why are you paying for a cleaner, why are you paying for 50 radios, why are you paying £62 for internet, went dog mess 123 sqn still only pays a fiver for dial up and seems to grt by with their 2 staff and 5 cadets… etc.

So many more questions now.

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