Preparing to Return to F2F Activity... Again/Still

I read the Cmdt’s note as ‘don’t jump the gun based on what the PM said this week, wait for guidance. Current rules apply until told otherwise’.

Seems sensible and timely. There will always be some who want to tear the pants out of it, as Jonathan Van-Tam put it so well!

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…that minority being practically every cadet.

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A) That’s what’s happened, just the other way around

B) Getting ahead of the NYA announcement is surely better?

This is good comms practice! “your all waiting to hear about this, but even then nothing will change immediately, we will work on our solution.”

As opposed to: “oi! NYA said this so what are you doing about it boss?”

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It would seem that many businesses are still insisting on masks and it’s these I despise the most.

I’m glad the CAC has said carry on as we are, as I’d never been able to work it out all on my own. If anyone needed to hear him say this, we are in a bad way. Frankly he’d been better off waiting until there was something more useful to say … perhaps when he has made a decision all of his own doing, ie not just relaying whatever the NYA says. When I first saw these mentioned I was at a loss as to why a Yachting group would have any bearing on us, as I’d never heard of a national youth organisation before and still fail to see their relevance.

We still have the problem of the devolved nations doing their thing, as such we need to wait until we’re all on the same page.

If it got to Monday and nothing had been said I’m sure you’d have been the first to moan that there has been no direction given…

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Not at all. I’m a big boy and able to think for myself. Well, when my good lady lets me.

Tbh… Id rather not die :man_shrugging:

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More over, I’d rather not risk infecting others. Wearing a mask is no inconvenience to me.

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I’m genuinely nervous returning to work… I catch it and give it to her mum… Its probably end game for her

My barber is going to. We spoke about it a couple of weeks ago. Makes sense when you consider being in extremely close proximity to dozens of people for extended periods of time. It’s also their livelihood on the line if they become ill or are identified as the source of an outbreak.

My GP surgery has sent out notification of the same. Makes sense when you consider dozens of sick and vulnerable people passing through daily, sharing the same space, and doctors themselves coming into direct contact with all of these people. It’s also their reputation and consciences on the line if they are identified as the source of an outbreak and/or kill someone.

There are other examples.

Cases are still through the roof and likely to continue rising.

It’s no different a concept to “No shirt, no service” - businesses hold the right to require almost whatever they want to as long as doesn’t break the law. Before anyone goes there: something not being required by law =/= an unlawful policy. They also have a duty to sufficiently protect their staff and customers in whatever way they see fit, from any hazard or risk that is present.

Much like we have a duty to cater for the welfare of our cadets and fellow CFAV, with CAC ultimately bearing that burden in its entirety, across 1000 locations and c.60 000 people.

It’s not about working it out for yourself, it’s about the numpties we all know exist that would crack on and drop whatever the NYA say they can while the RAFAC might take a different position.

Again, cases are through the roof - well above the first wave, have risen above the second and done so as rapidly as the third.

“But the vaccine”… Doesn’t help those that can’t get it. Viral infections are buggers in how they can affect you long term. “long COVID” is accepted as a thing, but the post-viral infection chronic health condition is not a new concept. M.E./CFS, mental and neurological effects, and others ruin people’s lives and put long term burdens on health services.

From what I’ve seen and heard, dubbing millennials as the “me me me generation” all those years ago was clearly deflection and projection.

Being asked to conduct a simple task to protect others is apparently an upsetting notion to many in this country. How sad. Meanwhile they’ve been ahead of this idea for years in Japan and Korea and other places with similar social sensibilities…

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The problem is going to be we will be trapped in a world where there will always be arguments to not remove restrictions, mostly politcal.

There is going to have to be a point where it stops and we do what we do with viruses and live with them. We’ve been going to see our parents all north of 85 and their view is they’d sooner see us and maybe get it, rather than not see us. Last year until recently it was almost heartbreaking to buy their shopping and leave it outside.

On the radio coming home a woman being interviewed said there are a lot of young children who haven’t been mixing with others like they would have been and will be more susceptible to the ‘normal’ round of bugs. The son of a neighbour was at school and said everyone was coughing. He had a bad night and didn’t sleep well, his mum phoned the school and said he wouldn’t be in as he was tired. The school’s response, he needs a clear PCR (fun with a 6 yo) before he can come back. Our neighbour asked why they weren’t concerned when he was at school coughing like all other kids for 3 days, she was told it’s policy. He had the test negative, still a bit of a cough he went back on Monday, no questions asked. She found out that over the week nearly all the kids had been off after similar poor nights of sleep and phone call saying they’re tired and won’t be in, being told to get a PCR. All negative.

That’s nice, but we’re talking about wearing masks in places like open-to-the-public businesses and organisations such as ours, not isolation and shielding.

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Stop arguing or engaging with him about masks.

He already told us he deliberately doesn’t wear his over his nose because it fogs up his glasses, if that’s his order of priorities, he is clearly the selfish fool we already all take him for.

Teflon is not worthy of anyone’s time, and I would advise every member to not reply to him, quote him or engage with him in any way. Perhaps if we all keep ignoring him, he’ll go away.

Also, if you’re not a Mod, there are ways to have the site ignore his posts. I’d also recommend this.

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If only

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Would someone think of the topic!

I managed 1 parade night before we had to stand down again, because it rained the day before and our parade night turned into cleaning the Sqn post flood.

I have no luck!

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Sure that wasn’t the army cadets dribble?

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That’s so frustrating. Works order for repairs or new works application for an indoor pool?

We’ve been waiting 6 months for critical repairs to our building and it will be a couple more yet.

We’re having repairs, the downside is all of our stuff, bar what we have in two plastic crates, is locked in the stores.

We’re having to be quite ingenious.

We’re fortunate however, in that our compound has two buildings, one is the ACF Spooner but, and the other is the Squadron and ACF offices. The hut was refurbished last year during Lockdown, so we can use that for now.

(On the ACF front, they got a newly refurbished building, crucially with the holes in the plaster, which their cadets had plucked wider and filled with rubbish, filled. RFCA also bought them a load of new pinboards. So where did they decide to put all their notices? Stapled to the walls next to the boards?!
I went round, removed the lot, pinned them to the boards and left a note on the whiteboard telling them not to staple things to the walls, crucially, signed as being from RFCA.)

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I’ve just had a reviewed fire risk assessment done and sent to me. They have reduced the capacity of the building by 20 people since the last one. There have been no fundamental changes in structure or systems since then. None of the issues I’ve raised several times have been addressed in it (like no lighting on the emergency escape route, not having a key to test the fire alarm call points). Some of it contain outright lies (like all staff are trained in the use of fire extinguishers every year). They didn’t do it with the building custodian present so as it is a shared centre half the site couldn’t be inspected, and therefore how it is a complete risk assessment I don’t know.

So opening for me will be at a reduced capacity anyway. If all my cadets and staff turn up I can’t have any visitors to the building now.

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