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They better not think they “guidance” trumps the law.

Once again… Their guidance does not have to “trump the law”; because the law will not be making it illegal to continue to apply restrictions.

They may well tell us that certain precautions should remain… HQAC may then very well decide that certain precautions will continue for the time being in the RAFAC… And if you want to continue to play you’ll have to accept that, because “the law” won’t have anything to say about it.

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analogy: the RAF Club has a dress code. That dress code isn’t “law”, but if you want to play with the RAF Club, you have to follow their rules. I’m sure you’d accept that :man_shrugging:

(edit: @wdimagineer2b and I seemed edit our posts at the same time to use the same phrase, I didn’t copy him! :sweat_smile:)

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This is a bit like saying “it’s not illegal to wear a pink tutu on a formal parade”.

It’s not illegal, but we set the rules.

Our current rules don’t even fit 100% with the law.

For all the non-compliance bashing that happens on this forum over MANY different things, it surprises and amuses me that suddenly we have some side-switchers now more concerned with “the law” than “our club, our rules”.

Lots of youth sector and RAFAC policy isn’t “the law”. It’s never been an issue before.

Stop being so inward-looking and let’s all get back to focusing on providing the best cadet experience we can instead of Magna Carta waving and buying up sunflower lanyards.

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Perhaps we can coin a new phrase… “Freeman on the RAFAC”.

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How do you (*broad gesture to the crowd gathered around my soap box) think it looks to a cadet, or parent, or Senior to find CFAV openly discussing faking illness and ignoring rules they don’t like?

We’re supposed to be exemplars, leaders, mentors…

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I’m not sure if you were asking me there… But I think it looks pretty poor.

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Better?

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It’s something we and those listed will have all done at some point in the past and do so in the future, so I don’t see as it makes any difference. Throwing a sickie, saying you’re doing something to get out of something etc, is part of the human condition and no one is above this. Do not try and say that you’ve not had something happening that you don’t want to do and told a porkie. Is every cadet who says "not coming as I’ve got homework, visiting " doing homework or visiting someone. I don’t go round to check or phone mum/dad to find out if they are, as my life is full enough as it is. I’ve never thrown a sickie at work as it’s just aggro when you go back, but then I’ve never seen the need, but cadets different matter as what’s the worst thing they can do to you and there are times when you’ve had a crap day at work and want a night in front of the tele or weekend with the family.

I wonder how many will be feeling a bit rough tomorrow morning and taking a day off for what is in effect a self-inflicted injury.

There is a world of difference between “taking a sickie” from work and pitching out on a public forum to openly state ‘I don’t care what precautions the RAFAC chooses to take to help keep our cadets and staff safe… If I’m asked to continuing wearing a mask I will simply invent a medical condition so that I don’t have to wear one’.

The former is something that many people have done (though few would be foolish enough to tell everyone in the office that they were going to do it…) The later shows, in my opinion, not only a complete disrespect for the cadets we take into our care, but also to anyone who genuinely suffers from such medical conditions.

Don’t try and equate to the two… I know that not even you are that genuinely obtuse.

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There seems to be enough people going around now without masks unchallenged even though the shops still have the wear a mask signs. Get too insistent about it and in a situation where it’s only a club rule and don’t be too surprised about the response. If it remains a thing in the cadets all we can say is we would like you to and if people don’t want to either suck it up or tell them to go away, it’s that stark.

Frankly mask wearing should become a matter of personal choice everywhere, which removes any chance of nastiness and people making things up, which does seem a bit extreme. If somewhere insisted on me wearing a mask when the legal precedent is removed, there are other places to go or not bother. There will be people who will wear them regardless which as I say should be down to them. We have enough problems in the organisation as it unwinds from the last year and a bit, so making this a thing, is not required as we continue to unwind.

I wear one just because it has been a legal requirement, but gave up having it over my nose, as having constantly steamed up glasses was a pain and no one has said a dickie bird. Take away the legal angle and that will be that.

Pretty much hit all the points I was about to make.

Ah, time for me to crack out my plimsolls and marpat next time I’m on fieldcraft then!

What a society we have created for ourselves where supposedly mature adults will throw a paddy over a piece of cloth designed to protect others. “mnerr mnerr you can’t make me” has left the playground…

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Anyway, can we get back to preparation for activities, or we all done planning and simply “returned”?

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But when the legal precedent has been removed, where do you stand to enforce? We have our little rules like many clubs, which we play along with, but making one out of this will be a problem, because people are just fed up with it all, regardless of any bigger picture. I’m not into the ‘freedom day’ BS, but it will be nice to just go out and not check my pocket for a bit of cloth.

I’ll show leadership, explain the requirements and justification, and lead by example*. If we keep masks, but relax other areas, then it’s enough of a win for me - especially if the alternative is no masks but retain distancing. And it’s unlikely to be forever.
Again, we’ll have to wait and see and all of this might be rendered completely irrelevant.

*Just the same as I do when explaining why it’s important to iron a Wedgwood shirt, or polish DMS shoes.

Speaking of which, we’re going to be covering uniform shortly as a refresher for our old ones and then also as an introduction for some planned new ones.

We’ve not rushed ourselves back to 100% normality and reintroduced different “norms” in stages, so that’s next on the list.

Might add a bit about putting creases in face masks…

don’t go giving @AlexCorbin ideas… :roll_eyes: :roll_eyes:

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Take inspiration from female wedge wood pleats!!

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Same place I stand on wearing a helmet when riding a bicycle. Don’t be a moron…

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Ironed my uniform tonight (pre match) ready for Friday which will be our first night back.

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