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Have you not had to cut holes in the floor to run Flintstones style yet?

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Already had similar occurrences. We put all our RAFAC signs up, ACF promptly took them all down.

What mingle with the hoi poloi and see how ir really is?
If they did they wouldn’t go to average sqn in backside of nowhere on spec. It would arranged and 3 line whip expected on cadets and staff.

Just leave it all up to demonstrate just how far WE are from rest of society.

Yeah. Got loads.
Mercifully I had filled my car up last wednesday and that’s me good for 2 weeks.

Couple of questions that I think I already know the answer to, but I may have missed something.

I believe the current rules say masks must be worn indoors still.

Does this only apply whilst at the squadron/unit?
If not, where does it apply?
Is it only for activities where it’s only cadets involved?
If you go somewhere not cadet-y, is it still required? (Museum, awards events etc etc)
Does the rule apply to non RAFAC personnel attending indoor RAFAC events, or is it personal choice for them?

As said, think I know the answers too these, but basically every post I’m seeing on SM is the opposite of what I understand the rules to be.

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That’s because the CoC, is just a chain. Zero command.

Come on HQAC review the damn rules and match us to the ACF.
Mask wearing… really.
Distancing… really.

It’s becoming nigh on impossible getting cadets to follow this without minutely rollockings now

As you might expect, there are units finding cases, so I’m not surprised there’s little appetite to reduce protections further.

Out of interest, what are the regulations in relation to masks and distancing in the ACF??

Presumably still along these lines…

We should be wear a mask if you want to ie make it a personal choice. This is what happens in the real world outside the Air Cadet bubble.
I can imagine it is irking some in the education world that there hasn’t been a massive surge in schoolkids nationally and maybe this is what HQAC is using as a justification for their intransigence.
Every prediction by the “experts” over the last few months have been so wide of the mark, it’s ridiculous. I doubt they could predict the sun rising in the East.

yes there has. Infections among 11-16 yr olds quadrupled between mid sept and now (Coronavirus (COVID-19) latest insights - Office for National Statistics) while they fell in every other age group

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…hence the cancellation of half term camps

Really. Where?

In WW region we have the Region Camp, station camp in Valley and the Band camp is going on.
North is having a Region camp also. The other 4 regions were bumped from DTE for their region camps. Incidentally WW had book Nescliffe but wee bumped from there.

We just had Halton cancelled :disappointed:

What level has this come from? HQAC / RHQ / WHQ?

TBH don’t know but may be at station level - Covid risk was the reason I heard

I work in a school which is part of chain of 7 secondary and 6 primary schools. There have been no cases among the kids (1 member of staff) in our school and 3 kids (no staff) across all the other schools, which hasn’t, meant any classes off school. There have been none in the 3 schools we primarily draw cadets from. We’ve not had any cadets apply for any camps, as a couple said the situation’s so shaky there’s no point, which seems eminently sensible, given how windy the Air Cadet management have been about moving even slightly inline with what is happening in the real world. As seen from SM pics they are not worried about masks or distancing.

WRT the info in the attached ref, you cannot make an assumption or infer that the increase is the same across all regions, well unless you want to scaremonger. Looking at the data the increase is just over 3% (which is only 3 in 100) and unless you have some real numbers to go by is not worth the effort as you don’t know the base point of the data. I would want something more before I got excited.

I think you are lucky to be honest. A lot of the schools down here that I know of are having outbreaks/many cases.

You are fully correct here. In fact for the general population the stats show that this is regional. But the fact is, for England, that cases in years 7 to 11 have gone from 2% per day to 6.9% per day in about a month, with a very positive trend upwards. Our rules are only down to each country (Eng, Sco etc) not per region, so I do understand where the Comdt is coming from in keeping the rules as they are.

Although I see where he’s coming from, I still don’t agree with compulsory masks though. Purely because I think the help it gives is so little when cadets is the only place they are still using them. Especially sqns who are mostly filled from the same school or 2 or 3 schools where they are all interreacting during the day without masks.

Should the main Gov or NYA advice go back to masks, then yeah, we should follow. But as they are not, I think it is just confusing/annoying for most. This is clearly shown by the fact the compulsory masks indoors rules seems to be being ignore by the majority based on what I have seen from social media posts.