May 7th local Elections

They are doing objectively well, but Starmer is now a poisoned brand and has to go.

Cat West could be an interesting PM. She’s one of a few I’ve worked with and is very much a passionate woman of her word. Not sure she has the brand recognition to be welcomed as a new PM, but that could be moot if she can’t gather 81 signatures anyhow.

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In politics, whoever wields the sword, never wears the crown!

Sunak did.

Wasn’t it him that leaked the photos of the No 10 parties to deppose Johnson, johnson leaves and 42 days later he’s in

Also, their comms and social media is absolutely atrocious, which is the main part of the problem. They HAVE to get things out before the reform-loving media put their spin on it. which is getting and harder and harder.

If none of the big names join her this could actually shore up his support, in the same way that Corbyn’s was.

And how did it pan out for Jeremy?

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He stood down after a general election but tried to arrange for his appointed successor to take over (Rebecca long-bailey) which failed.

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Does 12 hrs make a big difference? Not really. Doubt if anyone will be in post or on their intial councillor trg cse until Mon at the very earliest!

Looks like the beginnings of changes elsewhere?

The longer ballot boxes are left without being counted, the more opportunities there are to interfere with them. They should go straight from the polling stations to the count for verification.

In places like Sunderland, they traditionally get this, the count, and declaration all done before last orders.

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For MPs I can understand as that’s nation executive (although the lords allow for emergency contingencies)

Local councils where the councillors are strictly speaking unpaid volunteers it makes sense to do the count during day time when

  • people can concentrate more & make less mistakes.
  • It’s cheaper to pay the counters & support staff
  • The candidates can get a good night sleep.

The people who don’t like next day results are the media (particularly dead tree press) & the polling companies as it means they have to wait for the story or have to wait trying to flog their prediction model to the advertising companies (who purchase & promoting marketing opportunities in the media (inc dead tree press).

There is an in built bias to the polling companies that their method works as it doesn’t it loses lots of money - I do wonder if this is partially why the populist parties are surging & getting media coverage as that’s the advertising algorithm.

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Doubt it, lots of secure storage overnight options - & we aren’t talking about hundreds of thousands of voting papers.

Don’t engage with the conspiracy theorist…

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Securely under the supervision of minimum wage security guards.

But don’t worry, there’s no chance people like that would support Reform, right?

I think the vote counters are also minimum wage.

It’s easier to lose a whole box from a specific ward than print off extra ballot papers.
Unless you saw evidence when you were standing & were at the counts - let’s not over speculate shall we :wink:

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But they’re working under the observation of the candidates and their agents.

Similar to my point above, those counts were done properly and so the ballot boxes were never out of our sight.

Took less than 72hrs for the first newbie to be suspended

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Tomorrow could be an interesting day.

I’m sure there will be more.

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Hopefully got a couple of years for them to demonstrate that they are really a circus rather than political party

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