Why not show it to the cadets, which allows time for the staff to mull over the teams talk?
Well, cadets arrive 1850-1900 (if we are lucky), initial parade 1900-1910, so missing out the start anyway.
Would also need to take into account those senior cadets (likely to be eligible) who will be leading classification trg areas = too disruptive.
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AFAIK the date wasn’t set by us, this is a 2FTS initiative.
But the influence team have advised it should be available to view in the near future. @Wizzle to confirm.
A reminder that TUIs cadet program’s application open from tomorrow.
The offer isn’t as good as BAs, but it’s still a potentially great opportunity.
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Thanks for the reminder.
No idea how I’d fund the bits I’d need to fund, but still going to give it a shot
Also there are unfortuantely restrictions on your experience if you already hold a PPL and any additional ratings
This is really where it falls down compared to BAs offer. That and it’s MPL, rather than ATPL.
As I read it, the stage one theory training would be done remotely from home where you’d obviously need to fund your own housing costs and food etc, whilst not earning. BA was fully funded from day 1 AFAIK.
That piece I think I’d just have to play on my parents heartstrings and ask them to let me move back in for 6 months.
But it also reads as though you’re not fed when in further stages, including at their training facilities. That’s the piece that could end up being a showstopper.
It’s not as good as BA’s offer, but still better than some. Emirates also have a cadetship programme, but you need around US$100k for it and to be under the age of 26.
You can’t not go for a once in a lifetime shot at a flying career because of the cost of eating food for a year…!
You get accommodation, all you need to find is beans and rice, with occasional rice and beans.
You stick a microwave in your room and live off 85p ready meals if you have to. £20 a week for food is plenty if you’re eating for one and don’t care.
A credit card for a year would also work, or just work 80+ hours a week until you start the course and bank the cash to live on.
I don’t want to down play your concerns but the TUI scheme is phenomenal. You cannot miss out because of a perceived lack of dinner money, which seems to be the particular worry you’re having.
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We’re not talking dinner money, we’re talking full living costs for a6 months, then food costs for the rest.
If you currently live pay day to pay day you won’t be able to do this course without dropping your self into debt, or be lucky enough to have parents or a partner who can cover you.
Yes it’s still a great opportunity, don’t get me wrong, but you need to be realistic.
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Which I get if you have a mortgage etc to cover, you might need to be creative. But the poster specifically said it was the lack of food for a year. My point was/is that that is not a problem that can’t be overcome relatively easily.
Accommodation is only covered from phase 2 onwards, as phase one is remote learning, done in your own home. That means 6 months you still need to pay rent and bills etc.
Then phase two onwards Accommodation is covered, but you still need to cover your own transport and food etc.
But, provided you don’t have kids it’s doable. It’s absolutely doable. And frankly if you’ve got to look after kids and everything that comes with them BA might not work either for the same reasons.
You’d have a good six months until the absolute earliest the course could start, that’s six months of working a second job and saving like hell, selling so much stuff the cat thinks it’s next and getting prepped.
The problem also goes away with the magic of 0% credit cards. Not the ideal solution, but a solution.
Might not be fun living like a student for 18 months but to get a golden ticket to one of the best, if not the best careers out there it’s so so worth it!
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But people will miss out due to the costs involved. This is thousands of pounds we are talking about here, not a few hundred quid. TUI and BA’s schemes are great, don’t get me wrong, but both still have some way to go in order to cater for the working class and those who simply have no spare cash.
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They are hugely improved offers on those that have spent 100k on the training alone, plus accommodation, food etc… I have friends with enormous loans that look more like a small mortgage to get to where they are, and will be paying it off for a while.
Flight training is expensive, you’ve got to really want to do it; and (rightly or wrongly) have the means or be able to find the means to pay for it.
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On the TUI one, they dock your pay for 4 years to pay back the training costs. Which I personally don’t mind given I’d never be able to afford to pay for it myself upfront anyhow.
With the BA one they covered pretty much everything, from day one. The only up front cost would have been getting to Heathrow for the assessment day.
They covered all accommodation cost, food cost, living costs, transport costs etc.
You also went straight into the normal pay bands once qualified, no paying back through your salary. You would obviously be bonded for a number of years, but that’s a given.
But yes, the TUI scheme is still fantastic, and will probably save you in excess for £100k. But it’s not as accessible compared to the BA scheme, which would appear to be the new gold standard.
And offers like these will only be around for as long as they are short of pilots. The minute there isn’t a demand it will be back to self fund the whole thing.
It may well be a gold standard, but it is a commercial decision by that operator to take on those costs. There’s nothing that says they or anyone else ever have to do that. Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth…
Reduced pay for seven years on the BA one. It’s a phenomenal opportunity but the cost is more then paid for in reduced pay, no different to the ‘FPP’ which was the previous scheme.
Win win for all, you get a job flying jets for a living without upfront cost, BA/TUI get to handpick their pilots and save money on hiring costs.
For the last 20+ yrs, I’ve been following all the ups / downs of commercial sponsorship & various trg / cadet schemes. Similarly, I have been answering lots of questions, pointing people in different directions.
Yes, the TUI scheme is not so financially beneficial as the BA option, but it is still far, far better than selling your soul to pay for the whole whack yourself - but ignoring the costs, just as importantly, self-financed trg via an approved school = zero guarantee of a job. One of my ex-cadets is just going through her trg at Oxford London & a pretty penny it costs too!
One of my friends - his son was in Florida, just a short way into his aviation trg, when Covid hit. He had the option to bail out, but chose to continue. It was very fraught for a yr or so, but thankfully, he is now employed - with Ryanair (pay for type-rating). Think he turned down the “work in our Control Centre for discounted rating” option.
One of my ex-CAA colleagues has been waiting for yonks to move upwards (frozen ATPL, self-funded), but he has recently gone to TUI. It’s a very vicious circle, you end up with a licence, but no experience, you need the work to get the experience / flt hrs; many airlines prefer candidates to have gone through their cadet route in order to get “their” style of trg / standards.
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