Email Signatures

Interesting debate here: is a state awarded postnominal any more or any less part of your name than a state awarded prenominal?

With the E1 licence uplift you can indeed attach BADER Accounts to Outlookā€¦

I have 3 accounts connected to outlook on my work PCā€¦

work
oc.1234
bader.wing

The desktop version of Outlook does - Iā€™d expect that the licence your (school|college|educational establishment) has would allow you to use all the Office desktop apps

Eh. My Twitter name isnā€™t anything to do with my name, so thatā€™d have to fall under my normal distaste for state honours.

It does but itā€™s deprecated at work due to its habit of caching the entire PST file locally. Even more so at home (GDPR risk).

Thatā€™s weirdā€¦ I thought the recent versions of Outlook had got better at that (on both PC and Mac)

some can get quite emotional about them.

I had the good fortune to have the Lt Col from the local Barracks accept an invitation to attend an event.
In my JIs I missed off the QGM after his name
Ie Lt Col Joe Smith QGM, Officer Commanding Anytown Barracks.

His WO (copied into all correspondence) hit reply and wrote to me indicating that the Lt Col is a Queens Galentry Medal holder and should be addressed appropriately with the QGM after his nameā€¦

I felt suitably told off and corrected future correspondence

To this day Iā€™m unsure if the WO wrote to me
1 after the Lt Colā€™s nose was offended by the omission and had a quiet word with his WO to write to me
2 the WO thought quickly and corrected my error to save any further embarrassment on my part
3 the WO was defending his OCā€™s honour and was making it clear to me that the omission was an insult and offensive

  1. I wonder if other organisations say that they have the ā€œgood fortuneā€ to have the Wing Commander from the local Air Cadets come to their eventā€¦ :rofl:

  2. @steve679 thereā€™s a certain MBE holder you know who also gets very upset when people donā€™t use that :wink:

You mean like Sir Alan Sugar? Or Lord Alan Sugar

Who went from Sir Alan to Lord Sugar as his preference of address as his position changed??

Iā€™d suggest pre-nominals carry more social acceptance.

No one would say Alan Sugar KBE or Alan KBE in favour of Sir Alan

But is Sir more a title than pre-nominal?

What is a pre-nominal in this hypothetical??

No :slight_smile:

the implication here (that I could have easily misinterpreted) is that ā€œColā€ is part of the name, but ā€œMBEā€ isnā€™t - I was probably being a bit loose with ā€œstate awardedā€ when equating the prenominal (rank) of Colonel with the postnominal of MBE. We know from JSP101 that postnominals shouldnā€™t be in signatures, but ranks (and presumably other prenominals: Revd, Sir, Lord, Professor etc) can be. Is that just etiquette? Is there some historical meaning as to why prenominals get treated like that? After all, many of them are more ephemeral than postnominals. Someone will always be MBE (ok, there is a Honours Forfeiture Committeeā€¦) but they wonā€™t necessarily always be a Colonel

Ohā€¦

So what i think your asking is: is rank part of oneā€™s name?
Noā€¦but then I donā€™t call myself Mr Steve.

Military rank is a fair substitute as a formal title and some (who are eligible) choose to keep it post forces, eg Capt Tom.

Now Captain Tom is not his name, but we all know who I refer toā€¦

I have several post-nominals but I never use them. Theyā€™re mainly memberships of various institutions and the only place I use them is on my CV. Not that I really need to as I have my own business.

I certainly donā€™t use them on anything electronic. I really donā€™t see the need.

wrt: the MBE. I was once asked by a certain officer in my former Wg, if Iā€™d initiate the process to get him one. He was quite offended when I refused and told him that he actually had to DO something worthwhile to get a state award.

I got my MBE a long time ago for my actions on a mortar range. The RCO commended me on putting Mortar Bombs Everywhereā€¦ā€¦.

He asked you to nominate him!?

What theā€¦

Yepā€¦

Par for the course I suppose reallyā€¦

You know what he was like!

ACP 351 (Use of Email) appears to have been updated today! There is some mention within there about not using any pictures in the signature, but still no set-format on how it should be laid out. Also interesting to see comments relating to using BCC for distributions lists to avoid the reply-all shenanigans that occurred a while back.

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Is it headed up ā€œCheesegateā€?

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Well, Para 4 is terribleā€¦

ā€œThe main body email equates to the surface mail envelopeā€.

No. It doesnā€™t. Email equates to the letter inside the envelope. Email should not be used as a container to send other documents where the content can just be written in the email.
Thereā€™s also no such thing as a ā€œloose minuteā€ any more. It went out along with Point Briefs.

Iā€™m glad theyā€™ve made it clear that people should not be marking emails (nor documents) which are Official. Iā€™d hope that will reduce the number of ā€œRandom nonsense-Oā€ emails I receiveā€¦ Though Iā€™ve been telling people this ever since the GCS was changed to the modern format and they still do it; so probably not.

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People have to be bored enough to read the ACP for that to happen and the pubs open again tomorrow so donā€™t count on that.

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