Climatic Injuries Training - Pause and Reassess Order July 2022

Why are we so keen to put cadets and teenagers in general down? Can’t do this or that, or able to do doesn’t bode well for the future when they are in charge. When do they hit the point when they are fitter, better able to cope and everything is cushty. Or is it just when they reach 18 and left to their own devices?

I find it hard to believe we are youth leaders and have so little confidence the young people we are supposedly leading. Just because we have windy senior management, doesn’t mean we just fall in and echo their rhetoric. In sensible times it would be put in controls and crack on. Start early, finish early, so you can relax in the hotter part of the day. Tried and tested doing DofE for many years.

I’m not convinced from what I have seen in terms of regulars in general, they would be any physically fitter than many cadets, mentally perhaps.

Optics.

What is the difference between a 17 and 364 day year old and an 18 year old on their birthday?

A day.

But one headline reads Teen and the other reads Young Adult.

Not saying that it is fair, but it is what it is.

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No they both read teen in the media. If it was reporting something such as pregnancies, excessive drinking etc etc they will be teenagers as young adult means nothing to anyone. Even in the Air Cadets 18/19 year olds are treated the same as 13 year olds in terms of what they can and cannot do.

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Start a new topic?

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This article seems relevant:

BBC News - UK heatwave: Weather forecasters report unprecedented trolling

There’s a fair bit in there about why This Time Was Different™️.

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Your points are well made. As the school leaving age has risen the age at which schools/ organisations retain their responsibilities for the individuals has risen. Individuals who left school at 14 and entered the world of work started an earlier transition to adult responsibilities with the parrallel reduction of organisational responsibilities(apart from the legal ones).
While we would all advocate providing a training environment where risk is ALARP, the world of litiigation and the protection of corporate image seems to drive us from a pisition of managing risk to one where the only option is seen to be to eliminate it.

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So just so I’m clear:

Staff now need to do the training on the Defence Learning Gateway - Which doesn’t have. A direct recording on SMS

Cadet we have no actual training as the videos have been withdrawn and the new presentation isn’t out yet, so what are people delivering?

I’ve only even heard of this training on here, never mind a requirement to do it…

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I only fould out from A reservists with an exec role in nijmegen. HQAC has been silent.

Training itself is quite long, but also has some very interesting content.

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WRT cadet training / briefing do what we’ve done for years in terms of IET with reinforcement without any dramatic consequences, before the MoD got overly excited due to some idiots in their employ. We did the videos with one intake and a girl said, are the people that stupid, because that’s just common sense. We said the people are acting, well I hoped they were.

Officially, there is no training, I’d be averse to doing the defence training as the guidance we do have says we can’t use WGBT readings, which are a core aspect of JSP 375’s new system.

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Is there an official answer to this? I can imagine Bader SMS applications are going to be rejected during the summer especially with the focus on this area from CoC whilst cadets haven’t had formal climatic injuries training with the videos being withdrawn? What are we supposed to do in this scenario?

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Dunno, that’s why I was asking!

I thought the PowerPoints were still an option just the videos were withdrawn? Happy to be corrected if wrong.

So module 2 of the heat injury training from DLE has been added to Ultilearn. What’s the bet that is going to become another compulsory bit of training very soon? :wink:

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It already is via the JSP, for Activity Commanders that is.

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Oh… :eyes:

Should be, and I know people will moan, but it is not just for excessive heat injuries, but also cold related.

Except there is no Cold Injury training available on the DLE