That’s nearly 5k over minimum wage, which is shocking in itself
It’s exactly £1/hour more than the London Living Wage (£13.15/hour) when considering the 35 hours per week requested.
However IIRC the LLW was formed based on a 40 hour week. Based on a 40 hour week (because most people would only have 1 job at 35hrs/week) this calculates at £12.40/hour.
Either way, no-one is living a decent standard a commutable distance from London for that salary. Orgs really need to be considering whether it’s suitable to be hosting offices in London, given the impact on their staff and the costs they’d be paying for rent/taxes.
The RBL has exactly this issue. the IT/Media comms teams fall foul of this.
employee those straight out of uni/college looking for a first job - they land it and do a good job, but then after 2 years having had sufficient experience on their CV find a job with “real pay” - and so the cycle begins again
If they based these jobs somewhere else, then it wouldn’t be so bad. A general admin job at £25k is about right in a lot of places in the UK. Just not in central London. There’s no need for that job to be based in London.
quite depressing when you think that an E1 only gets £20k, even with London Weighting that only jumps to £22k - so £25k would seem attractive…!
What’s even more depressing is that these figures are dated 2010, yet the C2/HEO National figure for 2024 is only sitting just above the ‘max’ figure of 2010. A pay rise of £4k in 14 years!!
And then people moan at PS for walking from the CS and RAFAC when they get paid peanuts
Looks about right. HEOs (C2s) are supposedly equivalent to ldrs but get paid around the same as cpls.
Rough rule of thumb conversion is double the civvi pay to get equivalent military/police officer rank/grade
The ‘X’ factor
When I was a first year Sqn Ldr I worked for a civvi C1 as my 1RO, very weird being paid 15k more than your boss!
See I’ve seen different roled jobs been offered but all seem to aimed at officers. Do we get many jobs come up that a CI for example could apply for that isn’t an expert in a particular field etc
I do find it hilarious how many people swallow the Guido Fawkes/Daily Mail narratives around the civil service, especially when it comes to pay.
Across the civil service, but especially in the DDaT profession, there’s a massive recruitment and retention problem. I’ve regularly seen colleagues leave and double their salary overnight in industry, at least one has nearly tripled theirs… And alas we wonder why public services don’t seem to be working any more?
DDAT - Don’t Do Anything Technical
You jest, but this was out this week on one of the UK’s largest ‘techy’ news sites…
I mean, if they can’t pay their staff - how the hell are the rest of us proles in the not-so-flashy departments meant to cope?
I thought GCHQ was always low paid and that’s why they were in the West Country?
Before I moved overseas I was looking at contracting roles in projects (although not DDaT-related projects, unless they were part of a workstream).
Civil Service wanted three times the experience level of many other roles for around 60% of the going rate for each level.
Where I might have earnt £450/day in the private sector, defence wouldn’t have paid anymore than £330-ish for the same type of job, whilst also requiring SC or DV.