AT Quals and the Faff that is

That works for AT/Flying etc, but not buildings…

More cadets = more instructors required for quals.

Cadet numbers make no difference to the majority of fixed building costs - the building, electric etc don’t care if there is 1 cadet inside or 100.

Maybe we should split into a how should we finance the corps?

Perhaps this would be a better use of the RAFAC Development Fund, to fund the development of our Staff Cadets and Staff for the benefit of the corps.

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ok ignore the actual cadet numbers - consider the number of units in the wing

Highland Wing has half the number of Squadrons (16) Versus those in the south.
If money was split equally between the regions/Wing/Squadrons the cash injection for one unit could be twice that for another which doesn’t seem very “equal”

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only for the next 3 months: Scottish Wings are going a complete reorg as of 2021-04-01 (partly because one of the other Scottish wings has the greatest number of Sqns of any Wing in the Corps, I think)

Wasn’t gliding supposed to be a cheap way of flying… Just saying.

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at 38p/minute (average UK gliding club hiring rate) you’d hope so at that price

(ok i accept that it requires a launch either by winch (£7.84) or 2000ft tow (£29) but either way still a cheap way to get in the air)

what the VGS cost per minute was/is i can’t say though harder to work out i’d guess as its a not for profit organisation versus a BGA site

Didn’t someone once get a response to an FOI saying the costs weren’t available because “the budget isn’t monitored to that level” or something like that?

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Wait, I’ve just realised the topic I’m in - we’re not supposed to be talking about flying!!!

Please can we steer back to AT…

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i seem to recall such an answer…

it would be a challenging figure to calculate as its not covering “costs” but spending budget.

and where does that budget start or end?
Cost of aircraft could be included and any maintenance across its expected lifespan
cost of maintaining the airfield
cost of the VGS pilots (both the VA days and training courses etc)

then the direct costs of fuel for the winch or in the case of the Vigilant fuel burn

whatever that figure is divided by the expected number of flight hours across the fleet and that would be the figure…

but of the first three i mention, although they come from the RAF/MOD budget it isn’t a VGS budget or even 2FTS budget i suspect

In summary, flying is probably really expensive but no-one really looks at the numbers or knows, let’s all do AT instead. :grin:

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Sounds reasonable, let’s talk some more about this :wink:

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Nope.

Go join the ACF if that’s all you want.
Better still the scouts.

We are primarily an aviation themed org.

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That does virtually no flying.

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We have all the rest.
Classification
Sim
Model flying
Etc etc

I know not glamorous.
But 90% of the classification syllabus is aviation themed. For a reason.

You missed the point.

The bold one at the top of the page called the “Topic Title”.

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You can say that again…

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Lol. Auto spell corrector nonsense

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If you insist.

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Nerd stuff for nerding in the sqn on nerd nights. :grin: :grin: :grin:

We’re talking about doing the really fun stuff in the outside. Let’s get back to how really hard it is to get an AT qualification #sarcasm :grinning:

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So hard. I’ve been sat here for months and no on has given me a certificate.

On a serious note, I’m not in the AT world and have learned a lot in this thread. We’ve got our first member of staff for a numbers of years going through to get their at least their LLA at the moment but may go for HML.

Up until the investigation and discussions for their planning, and then reading through a number of AT threads on ACC and finding out more, I shared many of the (mostly) dispelled views that people have about AT Quals.

It will be low down as I’ve got some higher priority courses to get through first, but something AT related might go on my to-do list.