That there is a cracking idea!!!
Could just light the blue touchpaper of course and point out that in the RAF aircrew rank slides mean that you’re not a proper sergeant, and thus having no eagles would be seen as a step up.
(runs)
Why don’t you go all in and tell the snowdrops that they aren’t proper Cpls?!
Always good for a laugh.
They could have silver bells & diamond-encrusted lettering - but they are NOT aircrew.
Just use to wave our pay slips at the jealous ones, saying that they could have applied too…
Chambers defines aircrew as
Sounds like what they do?
The definitive word is ‘in’ not 5000 miles away.
Dictionary definition does not tie up with the context of extensive RAF trg in order to be awarded brevets.
we are not in the RAF so it doesnt really compare. Our SNCO Aircrew are in the RAF Air Cadets. Two very different organisations.
In the same way that no one in the RAFAC is trained to the same level as their regular counterparts…
I really don’t see the difference between this and - for example - wearing Fg Off braid despite not having done 24 weeks of IOT.
The key point is that these SNCOs are not going to know the left turn from the right turn or which arm a brassard goes, but do know how to get cadets in the air.
It’s depicting a skill / qualification that they do not hold. They are not aircrew.
I made Fg Off in four weeks and you now get Sqn Ldr’s who have done it in eight weeks.
our SNCO Aircrew are volunteer at VGSs
our SNCOs are at volunteer community Squadrons
“two very different organisations” - to coin a phrase
certainly two very different commitments and skills between the two
They aren’t being awarded a brevet though. Its and aircrew rank slide of the appropriate rank.
Is not a brevet and a rank slide synonamous, you have a rank slide then you have a brevet/wings.
As far as the RAF is concerned from SNCO aircrew, yes (unless under initial training).
Excuse my naivety as i havent been to a VGS in many moons or come across the new VGS NCO’s ever but, Are SNCO’s on VGS’s not also at a “Normal” squadron? I was always under the impression that other than a few key people at a VGS you are at a squadron with a secondary post at a VGS?
As far as I understand it, it’s the opposite. Most VGS personnel are VGS-only, a few double-hat.
As in they’re not awarded the RAF WSOp brevet.
Few years when we start to see “master aircrew” should be fun.