Youth worker vs RAF officer

A serious question
What do you consider yourself to be?

  1. A Youth worker who is privileged to be allowed to wear an RAF Uniform
    Or
  2. An RAF Officer who is deployed to work with cadets

Personally I consider myself to be the former of the two statements.
The two statements are opposite sides of the same coin; I also think your answer best describes your outlook on how you approach what we all do.

The two are not mutually exclusive. I consider myself to be all of those things as I understand my role, what I do and what my commission means.

2 doesn’t apply to me as I am part of the SNCO cadre

I’m with Redowling.

If I absolutely had to pick one or the other then (1) but really it’s a combination.

I agree with MattB and Redowling. Perhaps a better description of the role would be a RAF Volunteer Reservist Officer who specialises in the training of young people.

MB

I agree with all above, it is a mix of them both, perhaps reword to include SNCO’s
However if I were to pick one it would be the first statement

I think it depends on what I’m doing.

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Needing an ego boost are we xXx?

Think its more “ally” being “deployed” to teach kids?

[quote=“RearAdmiralScrinson” post=19302]Needing an ego boost are we xXx?

Think its more “ally” being “deployed” to teach kids?[/quote]

no not at all, nothing wrong with any ego. maybe a poor choice of words. Thank you
but hopefully you get the gist of what i am trying to say.

I am neither of the above.

I be a CI (with 23 years ‘service’ plus 12 previous in blue suit, if anyone asks).

Sounds similar to UOTC trying to give it big licks, despite not realising theres no call up capabilty to either being as they are both after hours youth clubs…

Your RAF VR(T). Your role is to teach and inspire young adults. “Venture, Adventure” I know some who do a fantastic job, some have previous regular service, some dont. It doesnt matter. Just be proud of what you do now.

Theres a time and place for shouty uniform crap.
Theres also a time and place for enjoyment and relaxed atmosphere.

Can we step away from justifications of how “ally” we can make ourselves sound and just enjoy our time within the ACO.

Ahem. Sort your spelling.

You’re
RAFVR(T)

Post-nominals for Officers are thus:

RAF = Regular Royal Air Force

RAuxAF = Royal Auxiliary Air Force (aka RAF Reserves). (not RAF(Aux), RAAF or RAF(A))

RAFVR = Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve (not RAF VR)

RAFVR(T) = Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve (Training) Branch (not RAF VRT or RAF VR(T)). As said, no gap between the ‘RAF’ and the ‘VR(T)’

I see a lot of signature blocks - especially from senior officers who should know better - with a gap between RAF and VR(T). Do they think this will make people think they’re regulars? It grips my golden flow when I see it…

I jest you not, i have seen:

Royal Air Force VR(T)

RAF
VR(T)

Royal Air Force
Volunteer Reserve (Training) Branch

Neither should be included in the signature block, per JSP postnomials are not used in a signature block. Simply name, rank, appointment

J Smith
Plt Off
Adjt
123 Sqn

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Its all just an ego boost.

I tend to not abbreviate in my signatures, only so that any civvies I write to (and I mainly do) understand what OC, Flt Lt/Plt Off/Fg Off, ATC all means.

[quote=“xXx” post=19290]A serious question
What do you consider yourself to be?

  1. A Youth worker who is privileged to be allowed to wear an RAF Uniform
    Or
  2. An RAF Officer who is deployed to work with cadets

Personally I consider myself to be the former of the two statements.
The two statements are opposite sides of the same coin; I also think your answer best describes your outlook on how you approach what we all do.[/quote]

I don’t think this post has been worded particularly well.

I’m not a youth worker (although technically I am for a living). I am an adult volunteer in an RAF sponsored youth organisation, and technically a reservist with no call-out liability and whose role exists to help support young people in the community with an interest in the Armed Forces, aviation and other activities.

I am under no illusion that I’m any form of regular, but my commission demands certain things of me and so I expect to act like a regular and expect the same of others.

Again, JSP101 - abbreviate in service emails/letters etc. everything in full in non service emails and letters.

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Frankly somewhere in between as it depends on whom you are talking to/dealing with at the time. Although I mostly regard myself as option 1. I know there are some who see themselves as option 2, but these I feel are more in love with the uniform and all that they feel it brings to them and regard the cadets as distraction.

I don’t ever get the sense that parents and people in the local community that we deal with give a monkey’s about the status/rank, except when they want to moan about something.