Does the Org still give out scholarships to the Squadrons that win the Lees/Morris Trophies? When I was a Cadet basically all of our JNCO’s went off to Halton for a week as we had been allocated 10 Gliding Scholarships for winning the Morris.
Haven’t heard of that one.
When I stirred the pot previously, on the Teams chat with AOC22Gp, RAFAC Cmdt & OC2FTS, Cmdt wasn’t keen on substituting Silver GS for those who had lost out on ACOS, as each GS equated to “x” GIF sorties = some lower level” cadets would meant out.
It took a few months, but my suggestion was accepted - & they didn’t even tell me! ![]()
GMG: habits.
Been doing a lot of drill on my new squadron the past few weeks, and they do some wacky movements. For a start, they’re still teaching all the new recruits TLV for the about turn, and their paces are way too short - like 15in too short…
And none of them will believe me because my drill is admittedly worse than most of theirs.
Well, it is nearly a new moon so it changes then anyway ![]()
It shouldn’t even be possible for cadets to be old enough to remember TLV.
How is TLV STILL NOT DEAD?
This is madness.
TLV died before most of our cadets were born.
And we don’t have any staff teaching drill, so it’s somehow managed to survive that many generations of cadets teaching teaching other it, not even just one SNCO that ‘always did it that way’!
TBH so long as after ‘Left, Right, Left’ they have gone through 180degress then I am happy.
So long as they don’t try the ‘swivle’ as I think this injures more knees and ankles than TLV ever did unless you are in leather soled shoes on an ice rink!
It’s because they go on drill courses and some cool kid says “now, I’m a qualified instructor who takes my work seriously, but do you want to hear something cool about the about turn that we’re not supposed to teach you?”
I’ve heard cadets repeating basically this. It’s a cool non-secret that everyone tells each other. And so it persists decades later!
Hang on, isn’t the swivel what they’re meant to be doing??
Nope, they just genuinely don’t know it’s changed…
I remember being taught the Swivel by Mitch in 2011, he taught it wrong. He was pivoting around his ankle, and THAT was dangerous.
I remember locking eyes with @Foley as he did it and us exchanging rather alarmed looks.
I still remember being taught TLV when I was a junior cadet which (current uni student) wasn’t a million years away
ditto
Quite the no Sherlock moment
It was never officially ‘alive’, so hard to kill.
Ah & as such you cannot kill what does not live!
Was it not in 818 before the change?
As far as I know, it has never been written in any manual. I’ve seen the 1960 Army Cadet Manual, the 1990 Army Drill Manual and all the others since, and none of them have the movements associated with “TLV”. I can’t 100% guarantee it has never been in any of them, I’ve just found no evidence of it.