You know what really grinds my gears? The Gears Strike Back

Option 5: live locally enough to a station with fuel pumps and use your UIN :wink:

Refilling and claiming is a pain, but if it’s Clarity/MT then you’re not paying for the vehicle hire or the additional wear on your own vehicle. If it was an ordinary hire you’d be having to fill it up or bear the charges and if it was your vehicle you’d have to fill it up.

The claims process isn’t quick or necessarily simple, but when you consider charity status and public funds the audit trail is necessary.

Getting the organisation slapped with additional charges from hire companies just leaves less money in the pot and they’ve already clamped down and restricted a lot of vehicle use anyway.

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I found a box of software CDs during lockdown down. And a floppy disk for a modem!

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Sometimes it’s not always the volunteers at fault.

We hired a white fleet vehicle for a museum trip a couple of years ago. At the end of the day, I brimmed the tank at a petrol station, then dropped the bus and keys off at WHQ (a mile away from whq). A month or so later, I got a call from the Wing commander - apparently I hadn’t filled the bus up, and extortionate charges had been applied as a result. It turned out that the hire company had picked the bus up, driven it back to their base about 30 ish miles away, and then topped the tank up. We were then charged for the fuel that they had put in…

GMG - Companies taking an order through following a redirects to their specific site that ‘delivers to the UK’ then radio silence for a month and respond to support case with ‘sorry we can no longer deliver to the UK due to Brexit’ :man_facepalming:t2: :vangry:

Fair, but I was angling more at a deliberate act.

Thanks for reply, perfectly happy with filling and claiming direct, but having it paid to sqn, then hunt down the OC as treasurer only accepts claims from OC than get a cheque because sqn can’t do electronic, then pay to bank, its not necessary. Claim form complete signed by claimant and WHQ manet straight to bank easy. Yes all quick emails but more time away from cadets and home. All the 5 min jobs add up because hq can’t/won’t join thd electronic world

can’t, or won’t?

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Won’t. If I buy stuff for the squadron like paper or whatever, I forward the receipt/invoice to the treasurer with the OC cc’ed in. Money then appears in my bank. Simples.

I do generally only ever buy stuff with pre-authorisation from OC/Civ Com first.

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Bank says can’t and treasurer won’t change bank

the treasurer telling you the bank says can’t isn’t necessarily the same thing as the bank saying can’t…

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Ah, you’ve played this game before.

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Get it but whole thing is frustrating at all levels yoh can do electronic and be accountable more time on admin is less time with cadets, yes only 5 mins here 10 mins there but all adds up. My moan/frustrating was just demonstrating the why air cadets have large admin bill which is better spent on kit and activities

If I remember correctly, the RAFAC insist that 2 people are needed to authorise payments. Very very banks offer charity accounts that support that.

We switched accounts a few years ago because we wanted to have online banking, and our then bank said they couldn’t do it.

I was paid by my Wing electronically this week, and the Wing treasurer apologised profusely because it was delayed by 2 days while they got in contact with the other signatory on the account…

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My daughter is asking about joining the Sea Cadets when she’s old enough. (Mind you living basically on a river it makes sense)

but your example doesn’t cost the organisation…only time and even then is your own*

i am not disagreeing with your upset at a large admin bill, but lost at the connection between your time chasing some money and the cost to the organisation…??

*and although it is only 5 or 10 minutes here or there, I am not sure how that could be better spent. If i have a F80 or F1771 to fill out i can do that in my lunch break - is that taking my time away from delivering an experience to Cadets? nope - just means less time on ACC at lunch.

if i do it at Squadron is it time spent not delivering a Cadet experience? again nope - the “Cadet experience” I am involved in has a start and end time, i don’t do “personal admin” on “Cadet experience” time…If i am at unit and not busy during canteen, or either half of the evening, i shall pick up a admin task which could be a F1771 from two weeks ago…

My old Squadron went down the electronic route, I tend to get paid same day and that’s with the need for 2 members to tick the relevant boxes online.

The fact that people are so up in arms about a recommendation. It’d still be absurd if it was required, but come on.

Radio stations cutting the ends of songs!

Prince - Purple rain! They cut the end every time.

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Radio stations talking over songs. Really a grinds my gears.

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