Wearing a watch with No 2A (Wedgewoods) Uniform & other "rules" which are not rules

Never know when you might need a pen, especially when you’re as important as me and might need to do autographs at any moment. :grin::wink:

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I mean…being cold can’t give you a cold, as a cold is a virus, not a state of being.

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It really can’t. Despite what many of my clients think.

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Yeah…. I know but her mum was a teacher and she knew you know!!!

This went of for months!!

Not even if you can prove that someone is a reasonable person who only works withing reasonable judgment. As from most legislation I’ve read most of it is just, in a reasonable persons reasonable view sort of stuff.

My Adult Sgt scowls at me (OC) whenever I put pens in my pully or shirt pockets! Even moreso if I use one of those metal clip things which were popular years ago for keeping pens tidy/upright in your civvy jacket (tweed, elbow patches etc). Not that I’d do it on purpose of course!

On an actual parade, sure - no pens on show.
But in working dress? …It’s working dress. For working in.

What should really make them scowl is use of the term “Adult Sgt” a good decade after it was withdrawn. :wink:

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Bassicly the problem is, all these squadrons treat a normal parade night like an actual parade and think everything’s got to be perfect.

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Yes they do. It’s not helped by the fact that some seniors continue to perpetuate this myth.
For a time it was even written that a Sqn night should begin with a first parade to include an inspection and a march past.
Someone must have been at the moonshine when that was written…

We are a funny mix in the RAFAC. On the one hand we are, in part, helping to prepare cadets should they choose to join the military, so there is a necessary element of ‘recruit training atmosphere’. On the other, no military basic recruit training course runs for 7 years…
We have to balance our single environment to cater both for the introduction to a military training ethos as well as a normal working ethos. It’s not an easy balance and it’s easy for many units to slip too far to one extreme or the other on the personal whim of an OC or SNCO/WO.

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And also, despite the pandemic, we’re probably still larger than the RAF, and should acknowledge that even if a lot of cadets want to get in, in this day and age they won’t - there simply isn’t the demand.

So we need to throttle back in the anal-ness.

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So just to announce that jumper season has now officially begun on my sqn as of yesterday, so with this extended summer hopefully we won’t be having heat stroke on are hands.

Why not just ignore your OC’s ridiculous rule and apply common sense when it’s needed. Wear it if it’s comfortable, if it’s too hot, take it off.

Even though that would seem logical, everyone seems to treat it as a law, even the cadets seems to accept it as the way it is. So if you take it off, even if you’re actually hot everyone is like wtf are you doing man.

Anyway my tie and shirts are at a quality that assumes noone will see them because of jumpers so taking it off would also show my bad shirts and tie.

Wonder what the answer to that problem is…

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Oooh, I know, it’s that thing I used to use before the pandemic. Name like metal, err, a Steel? A Copper? A Tungsten?

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I thought we got rid of a designated “Jumper on, jumper off” calendar

We no longer follow the set dates for jumpers on/off, but rather look at what the weather’s been doing to decide on when we start wearing jumpers by default. However, if during activities cadets want to take them off, fine with me. Vice-versa for jumpers off time.

Separately to this, I’m still in a situation this year where I still haven’t received a uniform order since returning F2F in May, so I’ve got some cadets in all sorts of dress modes based on what still fits.

In which case, why bother even deciding on a “default” switch-over?

Just do what the RAF and all sensible RAFAC people do and say “jumpers are an optional choice unless we order standard dress for a formal parade / inspection / &c”… The same as wearing sleeves on dark blue shirts up or down.

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Is this true?

I know it’s the case for Greens but I thought no jumper of working blues was always sleeves up.

Perhaps I should consult my new WWO :grin:

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