ACO changed to RAFAC in Oct.
Regarding our post-nominals, they shouldn’t change until December. These are just excited people on social media…
According to the blurb nothing changes until December 1st, so in fact it is incorrect. We are still the ACO not RAFAC.
I spoke to 3 over the weekend who have recently been at ATF and there are indications that December 1st might still be aspirational and could well get moved back.
One said he sensed a of lack of cohesion around the whole change.
Must be really bad if ATF have noticed its not all smelling of roses!!
No, the organisation has been RAFAC (not ACO) for some time. The 1st December is when we change from being RAFVR(T) to RAFAC… erm, assuming that the date doesn’t change again of course.
To be more correct (and assuming the date doesn’t slip), 01 Dec will be the date when you move from a RAFVR(T) commission to a Cadet Forces Commission. You are already within RAFAC.
The insignia change accompanying the new commission will be a switch from the VR(T) mode (gilt pins etc.) to RAFAC mode (RAFAC-embroidered slides)
At some point a line is going to have to be drawn under this. The MoD will have make a decision to go for it or chalk it up as a bad idea as something that couldn’t be made to work. The endless postponements are doing nobody any favours and it is frankly getting silly.
They couldn’t get the new military CFC to work.
They are struggling to get a Civilian CFC to work.
Good money is being thrown after bad.
Is it approaching the time for somebody to make the hard decisions they are paid lots of money to make?
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To be more correct than previous, current officers holding RAFVR commissions (Note: officers aren’t commissioned into the VR(T), just appointed to the Training Branch) will transfer to the Cadet Forces Commission on 02 Dec.
Only new officers will be commissioned directly to CFC from 01 Dec.
If they were going to do that now would be the perfect time for them to do it and save some political face. New Defence Secretary, new priorities would be about as good an excuse as they could give.
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At some point a line is going to have to be drawn under this. The MoD will have make a decision to go for it or chalk it up as a bad idea as something that couldn’t be made to work. The endless postponements are doing nobody any favours and it is frankly getting silly.
They couldn’t get the new military CFC to work.
They are struggling to get a Civilian CFC to work.
Good money is being thrown after bad.
Is it approaching the time for somebody to make the hard decisions they are paid lots of money to make?
Kinda like the gliding debate… try lots of fixes and then find it has cost more than replacing the fleet
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[quote=“the_silverback, post:2038, topic:2647, full:true”]At some point a line is going to have to be drawn under this. The MoD will have make a decision to go for it or chalk it up as a bad idea as something that couldn’t be made to work. The endless postponements are doing nobody any favours and it is frankly getting silly.
Is it approaching the time for somebody to make the hard decisions they are paid lots of money to make?[/quote]
It will depend on the rank of the person who decided this was a good idea, 2* and above (then or now) there’s no chance and we’ll stumble on blindly, because they would lose too much face.
Also there are too many gongs etc I imagine riding on getting this to happen for it not to.
There is the factor of have they done the making a decision course and passed it, by not making a decision.
Thread drift?
Just slightly.
Apparently ATF are now stocked with the new badges. Still waiting for the others to come through the post via Wing…
Not through Wing/HQAC, but I’ve got my MTP ones
Being sent out today or tomorrow, will be at WHQ Thursday or Friday …
So are we supposed to wear them as soon as they are received or wait until Dec2?
I think it’s got to the point that it’s personal choice
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You seem to be in the know… possibly HQAC or something… is it still going to be Dec 01 or is it probably going to slip into the new year?
Is it bad that there have been so many changeover dates that I’ve now stopped paying attention to them and had completely forgotten about Dec 01?
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