I know that. I think most people know that. We agreed to protect their borders*, Russia included. It’s been ignored. So what is the point in another treaty or deal? They are not worth the paper they are written on. And if we’re not prepared to help when such treaties are broken, then again, they’re not worth anything.
*My wording is maybe bad. I mean protect as in keep defined. Don’t try and change them for any reason. Like an invasion…
This is the very reason having American companies and personnel invested in Ukrainian territory is more of a guarantee than anything written on paper.
For the low low cost of half of everything.
Reminds me of Negan!
I haven’t seen the details, because nothing seems to have been agreed, but it was reported that the proceeds would go into a fund jointly managed by Ukraine and the US to redevelop Ukraine.
That gives me the impression it was more about self-funding or at least partly covering the cost of future aid rather than extracting profit.
The details that the US press have been reporting as if they are fact (so you could assume were leaked) were that the ceasefire deal would be:
Russia keeps the annexed regions.
Ukraine gives back Kursk
Ukraine doesn’t join NATO
USA gets 50% of the profits of Ukraines Mineral Wealth.
Now if Trump thinks that’s a good deal for Ukraine it makes more sense how he managed to bankrupt a Casino.
This was basically my understanding of it too. The absolute focus was ‘peace at any cost’, then when Ukraine obviously says no, they can make Zelensky look like the bad guy for saying no to peace.
Like i said earlier…let ukraine join NATO. Putin doesnt have the resources to take on the whole world. Ukraine has demonstrated that.
US would veto along with a few others.
Good interview here from SoS Marc Rubio giving a relatively balanced assessment.
Them joining the EU (which has a defence clause) has a better chance of success, but even then Fico and Orban will immediately reject the idea because they’re Putin’s Poodles.
He looked incredibly uncomfortable during the argument in the Oval Office.
From what I read he was the main person brokering & convincing Trump to accommodate Zelenskyy.
Yep, said it before, he is good. Some different view points to me, but he is a statesman who understands global politics.
So… He won’t last then?
The JEF seems like the best option for Ukraine to join for me, rather than NATO or the EU.
Due to its Northern European composition, I think every member would be on board with Ukraine joining and we could bring Ukraine under the UK’s nuclear umbrella (as we did for Sweden and Finland when negotiating NATO membership).
Put on the tele after a shopping day.
BBC 2 is showing darkest hour & halfway through.
Precisely at the moment when Churchill is speaking to the Americans trying to get help.
The Americans refuse to help & are evasive & when Churchill mentioned the P60 aircraft the uk had purchased from the US, Kissinger said (in the film) they couldn’t be handed direct but the US could leave them at the Canadian border & the British could send a team of horses to push them across.
It seems a very timely & interesting parallel.
“we’ll leave them by the border and if we catch you crossing the border you’ll be arrested as an illegal alien suspected of smuggling fentanyl. You will then be extradited to Russia when they wish to imprison you for aiding Ukraine”.
