Trump's Second Term Chat

Let’s consider the Hobson’s choice American voters were offered before condemning them for selecting what I would still consider the least worse option.

Vive la France!

This would be funny, but it’s just not.

Both sides-ism is something I’m soooooooooo over.

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Hobson’s choice is the illusion of choice, suggesting that Harris was so unpalatable that she would have done MORE harm?!

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But, but, but Harris might have let a trans women go in the women’s bathrooms. That can’t happen. I’d rather sellout my whole country and be significantly worse off to make sure that doesn’t happen…

/s

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They would have been even worse off with Harris, because socialism doesn’t work. Trump might at least turn his back on tariffs when they don’t work, but socialists will never turn away from high tax and spend policies.

Socialist?

Her most Socialist policy was a $25K Subsidy for first time home buyers, and even then it’s helping people own private propertt

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At the end of the day, a majority of Americans felt better off under Trump’s first presidency than they did under Biden/Harris and that’s why they voted him back in.

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Also under making me laugh this. Shame the bloke couldn’t grasp her point!

Thanks for that, I needed some light relief!

Socialism? :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

There are no Socialists in US politics, Bernie Sander’s excepted, Harris would feel at home in most Conservative governments we’ve had in the last 40 years.

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Hes the gift that keeps on giving. Trump today said that the current North American Trade Agreement is “stupid” and who ever signed it is an “idiot”.

Well heres Donald signing it in 2018

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It’s spelt “sOCiaLiSM :eyes::eyes::eyes:

waves hands and makes spooky ghost noise

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People often forget just how far to the right US politics is versus most European politics.

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Well, look what we have here:

This new budget is chopping about $2Tn. One of the biggest spending cuts in American history.

This is going to screw people over big time. And not just those on Medicaid. From a bit of reading, loads of rural hospitals rely on funding from Medicaid even though they are privately run too. So those paying may end up with worse service too.

But this is what they voted for. No one should be surprised to see this.

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The US is going to be utterly unrecognisable in 4 years - it’s going to look a lot like Somalia, with nukes.

US politics is utter divorced from European politics - the Republicans roughly sit in the same space as the BNP, while the Democrats are probably akin to Reform.

Harris could easily sit in a Badenoch/Patel/Truss/Jenrick shadow cabinet.

There’s a whole raft of orders (too many to list) that have been temporarily blocked with at least one judge rather unhappy that the interim order to release frozen funding about 12 days hasn’t been actioned.

The thing is that their current, “force a surrender and pillage 50% of the wealth” policy for Ukraine is basically handing all of the unaligned developing nations to China (and probably some that were previously friendly to the US).

If you were a rare mineral rich but economically poor country who would you want to work with?

The US who might decide down the line that they want all their money back as cash (rather than as Trade) and who will abandon you in a heart beat, or China who will turn up, build infrastructure and who are still standing by North Korea all these years later.

Doesn’t seem much of a choice to me.

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I think people are getting wise to the infrastructure trap, but it’s a very fair point otherwise.

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Interesting article in The Guardian today, for discussion. Noteworthy that even their commentators are now calling for British rearmament.

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