Trump's Second Term Chat

He’s spending a lot of time rebuilding the architecture of government and trying to re-cement the rule of law.
Which he shouldn’t need to have to do, but the last lot did so much damage…

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@SecretSquirrel I do feel like I’m getting attacked :sob: I’m not even old enough to vote, I’m just giving you guys MY personal views. I will say, a lot of CAP are more Trump leaning :rofl:
Your conservative are left leaning in American politics?! (Also I would agree, at first glance you all seem extremely liberal)

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@talon
I can’t see Greenland agreeing to that, therefore America would need to take Greenland by force. Obviously Trump could lie like the child he is, but still. If I were them, I’d get 10 years of funding up front.

I can’t see Greenland doing that either, and I don’t know why Trump even WANTS Greenland. All his claims are doing are ruining our (The US’s) relationship with NATO, which already wasn’t good as the US (Trump) has already threatened to pull out of NATO (which I can kinda of get as we’re paying for a lot of it) But, it isn’t very smart of Trump to do any of these things on the world politics scale.

Oh my… under the Biden-Harris administration inflation in the US went up 19%, if my stats are correct. Also, I got an email from CAP national headquarters saying that CAP has halted the DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) program.
Here’s the link if any of you guys over there want to look at it. (I’m assuming most of the people on this chat are from the UK (as I also think I’m the only one who lives in the US here right now)

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I take exception to that. Many of Trump’s policies (trade tariffs, government interventionalism, etc.) would be considered well to the authoritarian left of the free market, small government, classical liberal conservative values of people like me.

I suppose that’s where this new era of Republicanism is rather interesting. They like to talk a lot about small governement and freedoms etc yet there are many many polices which they seem to love and want which are massive governmental over reach.

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Turns out the UK has first refusal on Greenland if Denmark do sell it under a 1917 treaty. Could that be why Trump was sucking up to Starmer?

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Exactly my point. Like the ‘red wall’ voters who flirted with the Conservatives and then Reform, they aren’t very right wing at all (in the true sense).

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Would need to check across the entire date range, but I don’t think that it was that high? Post-Covid was about 11-12% (Trump period), & then maybe 9% during Biden’s presidency?

From right to left it kinda goes

Extreme right - EDL/ BNP / Britain first (basically the militant thugs) Tommy Robinson is here.

Reform / UKIP - strong/hard right, similar to US Republican tea party tending towards a selected elite

Tory - right wing basically get what you grab mindset, akin to traditional US republican, maintain status quo

Conservatives- right of centre (meant to be) get what you earn, smaller state, social change over measured time, government does what’s needed

US Democrat party kinda goes between but tilts to the UK right.

Labour (in general) - generally left of centre but varies on leader - get what you need mindset, no one falls through the cracks government is there to change. focus on workers but it’s more that workers opportunities to earn is not restricted by employers or the system

Liberal Democrat - in theory neither left nor right but somewhere in between, but more left wing social policy & right wing economics policy’s - people get what they want mindset. Liz Truss (shudder) started as a Liberal Democrat.

Labour (Socialist) - hard left government does everything & get what you’re given mindset with the party deciding. Bernie sanders is around here & is generally seen as a genuinely left wing from uk view point (although more of soft left from a UK standard)

Extreme left - Socialist Workers Party, momentum, communist - basically the left wing version of the extreme right & just as narrow minded.

Also one key comparison is the role of the crown in that in the UK the king is our living constitution in the same way the US constitution is to Americans - determining who is appointed the head of government. By defined process in US & by convention in the UK.

So thinking about it,

Trump’s style is very much in the popularist person centred approach.

Who is trumps successor? Or could trump go the emperor route & line up his son?

The Next President will be JD Vance, as the minimum age to be elected President is 35 years of age.

Ding ding ding

pEp just pointed out what a functioning Political system should be, doesn’t matter though, according to the Telegraph, 26% of those polled would prefer the theatrics of Nigel Farage.

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Thanks?

They’re not :slight_smile:

Not to mention you’ll need to look at the Context behind that spike ( War in Ukraine; No oil exports through Ukraine or Black sea, Sanctions on Russian gas, Nordstream2. Trumps’ Tax Plan; Massively cut income as a % of GDP, In the height of a Pandemic where GDP was Tanked leaving Biden a shizzle show etc etc)

Authoritarian :white_check_mark:
Left :x:

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There won’t be one, MAGA will collapse when he goes, populists don’t like people who share the limelight so there will be no clear replacement.

JD Vance will probably stand in the primaries but the more sane elements of the Republican Party won’t publicly him and he doesn’t have any of Trumps grassroots support. (That’s assuming him and Trump don’t fall out in the next 4 years).

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To add, that’s why Trump akd Musk will fall out pretty quickly, he’s already limited access to via the CoS rather than direct.

Trump chummying up with the Oracle CEO has already started musks vocal disamusemsnt.

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Oracle is kinda fire, especially their racing team :rofl:

I don’t know about how high the inflation is but I did find this (it’s from a .gov site)

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You need to remember ways and means committee is republican controlled, so they will put their spin on things in a build up to election

This is pretty much irrelevent, given all this is is a quote from a single person, Jason Smith, R-MO. The whole WAM commitee is a republican thing in it’s own right.

This wasn’t the then (as this was Sep 2024) Govewrnment publishing this as “we’re bad, here’s the facts”.

Yes, the Biden econemy has not been ideal, far from it. But it needs to be looked at in a global context. For example, compare CPI over time, UK vs USA

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The Biden administration managed to get on top of CPI quicker than we managed in the UK.

The bad statistics are bad, but if looked at compared to a global context, the US has done alright in the last 4 years.