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Policy via TikTok. Now that I would like to see, maybe via the medium of interpretive dance?

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I’d much prefer mime to dance.

So put it on mute.

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When I say mime I mean like the bloke being stuck in a box, climbing a ladder etc like I remember from my youffff on the Saturday night variety shows and things M&W, 2 Ronnies etc etc, not just muting some dance routine. But it would mean I’d need to be using it, which I wouldn’t under any circumstance. However it was Pans People doing the dancing I might consider it.

Because electronic warfare is a growing department and certainly isn’t limited to Social media. There’s a variety of stuff intelligence is attributed to.

That may Include monitoring social media of other countries soldiers/interesting members of certain groups of interests social media. For precisely the reasons we should be charging our people for. Security breaches and just stupidity.

Again cadets may need it as a vital engagement and recruiting tool to fit the demographic.

Because it fits a leftist, knee jerk demographic who insist on outrage media and causing trouble rather than the passage of information.

Anyone else remember the bloke wearing cam cream on the jungle posted one twitter, to which the outrage brigade jumped on it with cries of racism and blackface. To which the MOD dropped its fill, showed it had no spine and promptly deleted it and apologised, pandering to the outrage, granola vegan brigade. Instantly losing respect from everyone in the Forces. Instead of leaving it, educating and actually having some backbone.

Twitter is the most pointless social media, and it can all be linked to people’s other social media accounts. So you won’t be missing out on anything.

Do you not think that the armed forces need to engage with a similar demographic for recruiting purposes? Everyone in the recruiting target ages will be familiar with social media. If they don’t keep they’re going to be left in the dust.

Nope. For reasons stated numerous times
In my previous posts.

And if you are to have a SM. Have 1, that’s ministered and censored for the PERSEC of member of the armed forces.
Don’t have numerous accounts for numerous officers thinking they are some kind of Gucci special B list celebrity.

They can just get on with their job, the job they are paid to do, and the job the men and women under them expect them to do. I have little respect for any of my superiors on SM, it’s cringey, embarrassing and a waste of time. And it’s an opinion held by a very vast majority of the forces and emergency services.

For what it’s worth I think you’re wrong. The latest army recruiting campaigns, whilst derided by the likes of you, have done very well for the army. Filling their recruiting quotas for the first time in years.

Makes me wonder what you make of this? Posted on social media by the Swedish Armed Forces.

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recruiting quotas for capita maybe. But the recruiting process is long overdrawn. And the end number of trained soldiers from applicants is lower than ever.

“Some 47% of applicants drop out during the process - and the Army and Capita believe the length of time is a factor.”

Capita hit their first numbers since they started in 2012. Capita has been a failure.

“However, the service remains 10% below strength, with around one in five recruits who join leaving before their Phase 2 training.“

The argument against capita is a long and separate issue, and is an absolute dogs abortion. Officers and CEOs should be sacked because of it.

And the military is firmly in the dust regards to retention, morale and job satisfaction. I would rather the money and effort spent on REMFs playing on social media was actually better spent on the Forces.

And yep those recruitment posters did the rounds a log time ago in the numerous morale chats and military forums and were ripped apart, for various reasons.

They’re not recruitment posters and I think that reaction says everything that needs to be said.

The armed forces need to move with the times like everyone else. If they don’t retention and recruitment are only going to get worse. It’s not the Cold War anymore nor is it the late 90s or early 00s. Times have changed.

I can’t quite work out where your logic lies…
Your first comment said that we should not engage with anyone who uses Twitter.
At first I wondered if you just didn’t understand what the word “demographic” means and that you were actually saying that we shouldn’t use Twitter to engage with anyone… But here you seem to be using “demographic” in the correct manner (although questionably), so I assume that you do know. :thinking:

So I still can’t work out whether you are really implying that everyone who has any involvement with Twitter is a “leftist, knee-jerk, granola-vegan, out to cause trouble” (which would be patently polldarks), or whether you are trying to say “Don’t use Twitter because some of the users are not people we want”… Which would be a bit like saying “Don’t have a recruitment stand at the village fair because some of the people there are the local chavs.”

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You have completely missed the point. And they are recruitment posters/memes/whatever you want. You bang them out to the demographic you want/need on the platform you need. What they don’t require is a bunch of officers gobbing off about how amazing they are on social media.

No it’s not. You are missing the point.

And I like how every other statement I have made has been missed. You are just cherry picking the bits to try and have a pop.

I’ve seen the effect and the responses from various men and women in various branch’s. It’s universally hated.

No fella, I’m cherry-picking the bits that I don’t understand and am asking for clarification, because what’s coming across sounds too dumb to be true.

So, by all means, explain what your point is, because you’re right. I’m missing it.

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You’ve gone from saying that all social media is evil (yet you engage with forums :thinking:) to saying that only senior officers should be removed from social media.

Yes there should be some consideration for security but doesn’t social media help make these people more real and reinforce whatever civil-military relations exist in this country?

Your blinkered view of social media isn’t reflected in modern society.

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Whoa whoa whoa. No need for dropping the Fella. Jeez.

In simple terms

Social media can be bad, cringeworthy and a security risk.
Officers and everyone on certain social media, unchecked and unpunished, creating cringeworthy and embarrassing content is bringing their respective units into disrepute.
To the point where there’s dedicated Social media accounts set up to hunt for said content to embarrass them and highlight the issue.
Not to mention the various trouble officers are getting into for “checking in” while in countries they shouldn’t have.

The vast majority of people under said officers command, dislike it and disapprove of it. They aren’t paid to be on social media.

No I haven’t said all social media is evil st all. I’ve said it’s cringeworthy and embarrassing the content of officers and personal accounts of memebers of the Forces.

I do however have a particular dislike for twitter and find it and it’s content for various branches of the military and emergency services embarrassing and Cringey.
And yes I disagree with senior officers being on Twitter, they aren’t paid to be online “influencers” they are paid to manage and do a job.

A lot of people under their command lose respect for them with their cringeworthy content.

You have done some pretty impressive mental olympics to try and go from me raising points held by a lot of menebers of the Forces, to trying to paint me out as a homophobe. And you have obviously spent no time in a bar with bootnecks…

Personal accounts? Yes. With appropriate security measures?
Armed Forces Accounts? Not a million of them, officers aren’t paid to be on social media, and should be heavily monitored and censored.

I’ve had various arguments with various pages of social media accounts, official and unofficial of branch’s of the military, to have photos of myself removed, as they were posted without consent or consideration.

I’ve also had numerous arguments with officers in my current employment because I refuse to consent to my photos being used online, on social media, or even be involved in their stupid twitter ego boosts.

Does anyone fancy mentioning the original issue, HQAC banning the use of TikTok?

If not, I don’t think anything really productive can arise out of this.

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