The Cluster at the Muster

100% this.

This is the issue.

Hypocracy, failure and shambolic cluster from above.

My name is Paracetamol and I endorse this message.

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The thing is, this isn’t an anomaly. It isn’t a case where we’re saying “this is odd, it normally goes much smoother than this”… This is the norm. This is what we expect.

It’s been this way for every large event of the last few years. And it’s beyond a joke.

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I advocated this some time during Lockdown to my OC Wg who said it was passed onto the RC. We have a significant Internal Communication problem at the moment.

We have are overly obsessed with the CoC for things that don’t need to go via the CoC, given this is an aviation focused event I feel the following should have happened.

Notification of Intent > All RAVNOs + WAVNOs in the Target Wings
Distribution of Calling Notice > All RAVNOs + WAVNOs in the Target Wings + Advisement of Global Push in + 1 Week & Social Media in + 10 Days
Distribution of Calling Notice > All Rgn for selected Regions 7 days after issue to RAVNOs / WAVNOs
Publish on SM 10 days after Calling Notice initially issued, and 3 days after global push - ensures that CoC has had chance to comment but also that ALL STAFF can actually answer questions.

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Even that seems overly complex…

D0 - release to WAVOs and RAVOs.
D+7 - release to all target audience via SMS and CP.

Done.

Only then after the event, use social media for big splash publicity. No need before. All advertising done via CP.
until be stop using other sources for advertising cadets WONT commit to CP. Because we havent as an org.

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Then you get Wing 1 informing sqns of the event before Wing 2. Cadet from wing 1 speaks to cadet from wing 2. Wing 2 cadet then asks staff about event who have no information about it. Same end result.

You are always going to have that in a National Organisation unless HQAC are informing Cadets direct and then you will have Staff not knowing because it hasn’t gone down the chain of command properly.

Oh yeah I agree with you that it shouldn’t be last minute, if as a Wing SME I expect Squadrons to be submitting things 3 weeks in advance then that should cut both ways of U.K. planning stuff.

Paracetamol - that would be such a simple idea. I wonder why no one has thought of that first; instead of all this to’ing and throw’ing across email and SM.

If properly planned, as soon as it had been agreed to run as a ‘private’ event, it shouldn’t have taken long to sort and put in place.

Or is it the usual thing of just giving to an individual and letting them flounder; rather than giving it to someone has the knowledge and know how to sort :roll_eyes:

this

this

and this again.

I was once told to take down a post on FB because of “security risks” it presented indicated where Cadets would be and doing what…

#beadwindow

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Was told that Facebook and Social media in general should be used to show what we have done, not where we are going.

I saw one recently that was advertising a range day, giving dates, locations and weapon type.

Perfect… Well done!

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There is a time and a place for Social Media pre-event.

But it should be security risk assessed to ensure that you aren’t giving too much detail away.

I have been known to advertise Staff & Staff Cadet Courses on SM because I don’t trust Squadrons to pass things on. But I’m deliberately vague “we will be running this sort of course on these days contact me for details”. No mention of locations and timings etc.

For something like this as it was originally open to the public I assume the RAF had a PME submitted to cover it and the risks haven’t changed by just locking the public out, if anything they have lowered.

this is correct and a good point well raised.

and the examples you offer would be a great way to get the message out - the trouble is with this (and i am sure other examples) HQAC post something with the line “get in touch with your Staff” yet we either don’t know anything, or in this case particularly, know we can’t go - the fault of the “national” title used here.

I still don’t feel that pre-event is necessary, security issues dealt with or not, there is a cluster in the ripple effect the message causes

I’ve been chatting to a few people and it seems that in at least one wing the WHQ hand picked squadrons to invite…

Hmm this depends on context - in our wing we have some squadrons that are 1.5 hours away, and some that are 3+ hours away… If for a day visit with limited places they might choose squadrons nearer - they are more likely to make it on time!

But if it was favouritism that is another matter…

There’s other wings further away, so if they’re making those decisions and removing opportunities based on location and travel time, then what hope do more wings have?

I wonder what the farthest attending unit currently is?

A symptom of it being so short notice, if you want Wings to put it together at short notice they will do it their own way. If they are or were looking at SOV transport that might also have been part of the thinking. (Only 1 in 3 Squadrons in my Wing have SOV’s and that might’ve dropped over lockdown).

That many!?

we have been the result of negative favouritism/discrimination in the past.
year 1 - have 4 Cadets go to RIAT. WExO could “only” get a 50 seater bus to transport them there
year 2 - no places allocated - reason given, it is inefficient to transport you there “i spent £600 moving 4 Cadets last year i cannot afford that every year”

What’s wrong with “we have this many spaces, travel is this, you’ll have to get to here if you want to go”.

All units have been struggling for activities, which affects retention, and something like this is a boost to recruitment. By removing the option you create from WHQ level a split of haves and have nots.

When I was a Cadet I would’ve said it was 4/5 and having had a Squadron without one I’ve said I would never do so again.