Hmm, no I hadn’t spotted that and it’s quite relevant as I was having a discussion about that very topic the other night.
If I’m honest that is the way it should be! It not only promotes the reserve forces to our cadets as an option for them post cadet service, it also strengthens our links with the reserve forces and removes any confusion as to the status of individuals. I know of a couple of VR(T) Officers who have been SACs in the RAuxAF and frankly thats not right
I always thought that was how it was done anyway
If I’m honest that is the way it should be! It not only promotes the reserve forces to our cadets as an option for them post cadet service, it also strengthens our links with the reserve forces and removes any confusion as to the status of individuals. I know of a couple of VR(T) Officers who have been SACs in the RAuxAF and frankly thats not right[/quote]
Totally agree.
no it was a degree of personal preference. although rare to find a uniformed CFAV as a RAuxAF typically either CI or SI
no it was a degree of personal preference. although rare to find a uniformed CFAV as a RAuxAF typically either CI or SI[/quote]
I had a reservist on unit as a CI, he was previously a FS(ATC) before he joined the RAuxAF. Why CI? Because then he could hold on to his range qualifications easier.
So what do we do with those that already are Reservists and CFAV?
Do we carry on as we were before, just with the reminder of the previous agreement, or do we have to kick them out and tell them to come back as a SI?
[quote=“Jonay1990” post=9133]So what do we do with those that already are Reservists and CFAV?
Do we carry on as we were before, just with the reminder of the previous agreement, or do we have to kick them out and tell them to come back as a SI?[/quote]
I wondered that. Although, as a CI who has been trying to go SI for a while now it does mean that lots of stuff that was really difficult or impossible for various admin types a month ago (wrt my application) has suddenly become really simple and easy… :huh:
Also it states
I take it that those in the Regiment (who aren’t issued with blues) are to attend in No3? (Reference E is AP1358)
I have a FS(ATC) on the sqn who is also an AC in the RAuxAF.
Don’t reserve rocks get blues? If you don’t have blues wear your working dress out Army SI wears his and he is TA
Reserve rocks are scaled for the same kit as regular rocks, so blues wise that’s: No1s, SD cap, 1 pair of shoes, 1 pair of No2 trousers, 2 short sleeved blue shirts, 2 long sleeved blue shirts, jersey, GPJ, foul weather suit, 3 pairs of socks, belt and tie. Oh, and appropriate rank slides.
I’m still waiting for my No 1s.
Jonay, if your bod hasn’t got his a) has he had his tailor’s parade yet? That’s when I got issued my No 2s b) I imagine a lot of squadrons don’t issue the blue kit until it’s definitely needed, ie: individual being mobbed in a ‘blue’ role or for certain events. If he explains to his squadron supplier that he’s been appointed as an SI to the ATC then they should have no problem handing over the goods.
[quote=“tango_lima” post=9149]Reserve rocks are scaled for the same kit as regular rocks, so blues wise that’s: No1s, SD cap, 1 pair of shoes, 1 pair of No2 trousers, 2 short sleeved blue shirts, 2 long sleeved blue shirts, jersey, GPJ, foul weather suit, 3 pairs of socks, belt and tie. Oh, and appropriate rank slides.
I’m still waiting for my No 1s.
Jonay, if your bod hasn’t got his a) has he had his tailor’s parade yet? That’s when I got issued my No 2s b) I imagine a lot of squadrons don’t issue the blue kit until it’s definitely needed, ie: individual being mobbed in a ‘blue’ role or for certain events. If he explains to his squadron supplier that he’s been appointed as an SI to the ATC then they should have no problem handing over the goods.[/quote]
Had a feeling that wold be the case but not being a rock I didn’t want to say for sure
[quote=“zinggy” post=9163][quote=“tango_lima” post=9149]Reserve rocks are scaled for the same kit as regular rocks, so blues wise that’s: No1s, SD cap, 1 pair of shoes, 1 pair of No2 trousers, 2 short sleeved blue shirts, 2 long sleeved blue shirts, jersey, GPJ, foul weather suit, 3 pairs of socks, belt and tie. Oh, and appropriate rank slides.
I’m still waiting for my No 1s.
Jonay, if your bod hasn’t got his a) has he had his tailor’s parade yet? That’s when I got issued my No 2s b) I imagine a lot of squadrons don’t issue the blue kit until it’s definitely needed, ie: individual being mobbed in a ‘blue’ role or for certain events. If he explains to his squadron supplier that he’s been appointed as an SI to the ATC then they should have no problem handing over the goods.[/quote]
Had a feeling that wold be the case but not being a rock I didn’t want to say for sure[/quote]
Oh. And a daysack. I forgot that one.
You should have heard some of my oppos moaning after that kit issue. :lol:
Why? Genuine question…
Well that person would hold the queens commission so an SAC holding said commission is very odd.
I was after Leeroys reasoning specifically.
How can you serve as an airman in one branch of the RAF and an Officer in another branch of it? Surely its not allowed to be commissioned and serve as non-commissioned.
Also what happens when you’re “Cutting around camp” dressed as a Flt Lt VR(T) on a weekend when all your mates (and seniors) from the RAuxAF are on the same camp and you happen to bump into each other?
How can you serve as an airman in one branch of the RAF and an Officer in another branch of it? Surely its not allowed to be commissioned and serve as non-commissioned.
Also what happens when you’re “Cutting around camp” dressed as a Flt Lt VR(T) on a weekend when all your mates (and seniors) from the RAuxAF are on the same camp and you happen to bump into each other?[/quote]
Hmmm, interesting points. I’ll ponder and reply later…
I’ll wager you can’t wait 
:lol:
it still holds true though. an SAC with a commission doesn’t sit well
would that SAC be saluted?
some would argue yes, it is held and valid and thus a salute should be offered
other no, the role (SAC) is not relevant to the commission and so is not acknowledged
but that then opens up a debate about when Officers/holders of a commission should be saluted when not in “uniform”/on duty
i was told by my SWO to salute our CI, as he was a retd Officer (and CO of the Sqn) and as he held a commission it should be recognised irrespective of his current rank/role
As a retired officer and now a CI, the only time he should be saluted is if he is attending a function in uniform. Dining nights are an example of such functions where retired officers so authorised may wear uniform.