Supervisory Care Directive Published

Corrected that for you.

The volunteer has gone rogue and ignored policy

is much easier for Perms to defend in Court.

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I am collating some feedback from CFAV about the potential impact of the SCD using a Microsoft Form which is available at:

Supervisory Care Directive - CFAV Feedback – Fill in form

The form is anon but you do need a RAFAC account to access it. There is only one question which asks you to provide some information about the type and scale of impact you believe this SCD will cause for you at the local level. The more specific you can be in your context the better.

My intent is to take the results, review them and then put them into a report which can be fed into the chain of command for consideration.

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If there is one thing that has been said here in theses 182 posts that has made more sense that this, then I can’t think of it.
People complain about the snow flake generation. RAFAC with the SCD is in pole position as its greatest enabler.

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A pondering questioning for those legally minded….

If i ignore this policy on sqn as it is complete drivvel and something bad happened on sqn or an activity when cadet were remotely supervised could i be held personally liable in any way?

Assuming all planned controls in RA are followed and an unmitigable injury occurred when cadets are remotely supervised.

It seems the only way to continue to deliver most activities with this directive is to just ignore as the works of someone ill informed but somehow has sufficient permission to post on sharepoint… (And advise staff teams as such)

I could be pessimistic but this sort of thing does push staff to other youth groups with a more realistic view of risk and volunteers time to read/understand 100’s of policies/updates (Most of which contradict each other)

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That would depend a lot on what happened and the circumstances so almost impossible to say. If someone was badly injured then another policy would probably have been breached that was more serious and the SCD ratios would be somewhere down the list of violations.

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Unfortunately …it wouldn’t even need something ‘bad’ to happen…

..Even something minor, little Jonhy blabs to Mummy and Daddy who (probably completely overeact!) decide to take it further ….you could be in the poop as far as getting a long service medal ….
Dammed if you do …dammed if you don’t….

Depends if we’re talking about spending 5 years as the girlfriend substitute at HMP Armley, or getting sacked as OC and yeeted out of the ATC.

One of those is very definitely a problem, the other perhaps less so.

There are no sharing a cell & STD’s with Lonely Dave consequences for breaking ATC rules. There are for breaking the actual law

Obviously, if you do break them, and something else goes wrong, HQAC won’t run to your defence, pay your legal fees and send a line of seniors to court to give you character references and to pleed your case with the beak like they would otherwise.

Oh, ah….

My own view is that the best way to combat this crap is to absolutely plague the most senior people you can access with evening and weekend calls asking for emergency exemptions/whatever - they’ll get bored of having their lives relentlessly disrupted pretty quickly, and Lo!, a more sensible policy will emerge.

Hopefully the author of this *mighty tome’ will soon be offered a career opportunity at the Embassy in Baghdad…

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One simple way to reduce the impact of this would be to increase the joining age to 13 and transfer cadets to CFAV status at 18.

We could go completely back to the 1970s and stop girls from joining too…

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Genuine conversations were having.

If we don’t have female staff, we can’t have female cadets. So we can’t recruit them.

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We really need to avoid trying to justify turning female cadets away.

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Do you think HQAC are going to get the metaphorical punch in the face by us just making this beef witted idiocy work?

No, it’s only going to change when CAC gets dragged to a hats on, pension-endangering, standing on a plastic sheet, one way conversation either with CAS, or a minister.

That won’t happen if we make this work and hide the - appalling - consequences under the carpet.

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And any newly recruited female CI will have at least a 12 month probation before they can be used towards ratios.

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I don’t really understand why we do a year’s probation. What function does it serve?

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I thought it was 6 months (but then 12 back on probation as an APO if you commission)

Ticks a box in a pointless policy…sorry are you unaware how policy works in the ATC?

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Yes likewise, plus the exemption that ex-cadets progressing straight into CIship don’t do it and can count immediately after AVIP

Female only and male only squadrons?

Bring back the GVC?

I, for one, look forward to the reception given to the proposal paper for the introduction of Lady Squadrons…

I didn’t realise it had gone?