Squadron Identification Badges will be worn on No 3 uniform

Cadets subs don’t pay for bullets.

Also, a cadet needs 3 of these identity badges over the course of their career. That’s 21 rounds by your logic. I did that in a few mins when I shot the L98. I don’t think it’s a great cost comparison.

Does the entirety of HQ need to give input on every change? I really think not. I’m sure all the uniform and drill types did get input. If you give every person input for every change then nothing ever gets done. You sit around debating non-problems all the times.

In the same way Alex probably won’t have any input on mil-skills changes before release.

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I didn’t say input.

It follows an already agreed system though:

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Sorry what are you chatting?

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Initially I said visibility.

the input was a question…

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I was answering both. But, if you’re not giving input then there’s not exactly a need for visibility in advance of something like this. Other than to possibly give input…

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There is as small changes can affect other policies or decisions the HQ is making.

This is a trivial one where it likely won’t make any difference but the premise is the same.

It’s not gash and if you want the rationale behind it look at Alex’s post earlier up (Squadron Identification Badges will be worn on No 3 uniform - #8 by AlexCorbin)

Thats not a great attitude really is it? First of all if you’re a member off staff you have been delegated this duty by HQ RAFAC via WO RAFAC/RWO/WWOs, Second of all, If you are staff, you won’t be wearing a badge.

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Thanks @JoeBloggs

We’re following the parent service, so why are you being difficult?

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Uniformed CFAV will be :slight_smile:

Not under the current IBN?

Im pretty sure its ATC cadets only as CFAV’s belong to the org as a whole

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Ah, I must have misinterpreted it. Maybe it just said CFAV move the formation badge up? That would make sense. That would be neat though if they could. OCs can have their number on their arm!

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getting it on Cadets is controversial enough as it is :laughing:

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As it’s just cadets then I really don’t understand the controversy at all.

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God forbid Staff know which OC is responsible for which PITA cadet, or more optemistically, Brilliant cadet

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I think it’s just cost/faff vs benefit. Personally, I’ve never been on an activity where I need to identify a cadet’s unit right there and then. If I need to know it for something I can just ask them or look it up at a convenient time.

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It’s not being difficult, it’s being realistic. It hasn’t been an issue for 85 years, why does it need to be now? A better approach would be to follow the CCF line and have an identifying wing badge on the left arm - although I’m not sure it would look any better.

Your opinion is that it’s not gash, mine is that it is.

When the venture is centrally funded, as much as I don’t like it, I would be slightly more inclined to support it. Asking squadrons to go into their own funds for a central policy decision is unfair and not the correct way to go about it - “you must make a change and you must pay for it.”Unreasonable and unfair when some units are not as financially well off as others. I suppose after many many years in this organisation I should be used to stuff like this, but hey ho it still finds ways to frustrate time and time again…

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For the first half of the 85 years that this “hasn’t been an issue” for, cadets were wearing battle dress blouses in the field, with sqn identification badges on them.

As has been discussed at length, most wings don’t have authorised badges to turn into a patch on the left arm: unless you mean the CCF brassard badges with the name of the school written on in random colours and sizes?

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Can’t say I was aware we had a choice…

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My immediate reaction was that it was gash, but after remembereing that in actual usage (not just a Png ontop of another Png) its not that bad as demonstrated, Alex and joe have shown already that HQ SO2 Logs is already looking at HQ shouldering the cost.

But point is, this is a dress change approved by the RAF dress committee and HQ RAFAC, There’s not really a choice in wether or not you enforce it

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As much as I may not love the idea (I don’t hate it, but I’m fairly apathetic), the whole thing will be a net positive for me if this actually happens, assuming the public funding would also extend to the brassard unit identifiers.

They may not be expensive, but it’s something that really should have stayed publicly funded and every little helps…