Shots at Trump

Yeah, I get what you’re saying. I’ve seen nothing to indicate false flag yet. I doubt we’ll get much more concrete info for a while, but in the meantime let’s try not to think too conspiratorially.

And remember…

You’ve been watching the latest series of The Boys, haven’t you?

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No. I’ve almost finished the first series though.

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Sadly looks like there were others hit and killed :frowning:

When I saw ‘Civil War’ at the kinema earlier on this year, I said then that it was a documentary sent back from the future of later this year…

I was wondering unsuccessful time traveller……

I have friends who are supporters of Twump and Voters of Biden. They pretty much have posted similar stuff about the timing of this and what it means when it comes to Twumps supporters, and what they are capable of.

The time it took for them to move him to somewhere safe (bullet proof car) was ridiculous after they said it was clear. Anyone else gets dragged and shoved in the car, Twump…let me get my shoes while possibly having his protectors still out in the line of fire. oh and lets wait to see the T-shirts of big strong Trump after he paused to make sure they got some iconic sho…sorry pics before they eventually got him moving mouthing ‘Fight Fight Fight’ :man_facepalming:

I feel so sorry for my friends over there. A few of them said how quick our voting and resignation of not so dishy Rishi was before the new partaaaay took over.

Apart from posts on forums etc, we are all just cracking on with life as best as can be, yet people are still having debates/arguments over the 2020 election in the US still :man_shrugging:

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As much as i despise Trump and the culture he has created in one of my favourite places…him dieing from this would have been the worst result. Not that id wish him dead.

It would stir up the violent far right so much i can see almost civil war like vibes, and his replacement would probably be even more extremist!

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I’m not so sure. You would have some elements but Trump is very much a one person centred style of leadership.

If he passes away suddenly (he is in his 80s) then who would be able to replace him?

I don’t think there is any one on the right in America to crystallise around.

It would take a very stupid person to allow himself to be shot at in order to benefit from the subsequent publicity / uproar. Even shooting outdoors with a 'scoped precision long-barreled rifle (not an AR15 or similar) at 100 - 150 yds, aiming to wound at the periphery of a (moving) person wouldn’t come with a “get your money back” guarantee! :wink:

Equally, it would take a very stupid person to expose themselves as a target (unless they had a death wish of course!) by taking a pot at a Presidential candidate (& ex-President).

It did seem to take a “relatively” long time for the sniper(s) to locate / return fire. It’s not so easy with scoped rifles (limited field of view) to find a pop-up target.

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You know we are talking about Trump right?

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This about sums up everyone I knows reactions. Trumps poll ratings are about to jump much higher.

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I don’t see that it matters, he was already running against a person who even their stronger supporters is pretty sure has Dementia. You might not agree with anything Trump says but do you really want Joe Biden who doesn’t seem to know where he is with his finger in the button?

I wonder if the Secret Service shouted “Donald Duck”

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They’re both bad options, and it would be the best case scenario if neither ran, but I’d rather have Biden for the simple reason that he appears to be guided by the people around him to some degree, whereas Trump seems to do what he wants to do and to hell with the consequences.

He seems to need to be guided from room to room, hardly what you want in a person with actual executive power.

To be fair to his first term he tended to do what he had said he was going to do, which came as something of a shock to those used to politicians.

I agree in the ideal world neither would run and they would have a candidate who was younger than Sputnik. But in the real world the only reason to vote for Biden is that he isn’t Trump. (Which many would see as reason enough, but I don’t see undecided voters going down that route).

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Politicians from my thinking rely on donors etc so they will always take the money and make things better for the money people. Now look at us, the average everyday person.

There is a NHS waiting list of months, why is that? what do we need to do to reduce that wait? Money is the answer, so where is the biggest drain of money, do we need to be spending that much? Can we reduce that? Taxes are always mentioned, why do the well off pay less tax, does the trickle down economy thinking work?

I’ve seen a few of the rich list having to pay out ex’s etc, which has dented their billions yet they have recovered thankfully and can still live in their various houses not having to worry bout being able to put the heating on.

Was there ever a time when the UK was taxing the wealthy and not crippling the poor into debt. What changed and why did it change?

Look at us mere peasants who many live from payment to payment, be that wages or benefits. Cost of living goes up, tesco makes record profits yet we are paying more for items that have shrunk.

I will never trust a politician because they promise to do one thing and do not do it, or they start off with good intention only to do a 180.

I didn’t do a politics GCSE so I might be talking out my derriere about things here. So class it as an uneducated rant and Carry On…

My American friends are worried about what will come from this attempt, they dread the next few weeks and months, no doubt more Twump merch will be seen worn on our screens by the “Poorly Educated” as Twump calls them who are blinded because they think he is gods gift after seeing comments like “Trump is covered in the blood of Jesus Christ”

Stop the world, I’d like to get off please

Higher rate taxpayers in the UK contribute a significant portion of the total tax revenue. As of the latest data:

This demonstrates the progressive nature of the UK income tax system, where higher earners contribute a larger share of the tax revenue.

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As they should, because maintaining a safe and prosperous nation state requires significant money from people whose safe jobs exist thanks to a good education, health, and security system.

People who barely have enough to have stability shouldn’t be paying much.

Add to that the fact that the less you have, the greater impact money can have for you. Eventually, more money just means buying up assets like houses that other people need. The wealth gap grows and poorer people get less and less.

America had its day. It became great with the richest paying very high levels of tax on money above a certain level.

Now we need wealth taxes, to tackle intergenerational wealth. Our labour should not be taxed more than invested money.

On that logic why invest here? Inter generational wealth is why we work as hard as we do, so that our children will be better off than we were.

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Taxes & national fiscal status / protocols is rather off topic.

There has to be a fair balance of proportional taxation against those who can afford it to help finance fiscal policy / support services / assist those who can’t afford taxes.

Go too far & you lose those high income payers who b*gger off to another country. For example, not that from from England, there are concerns about these taxation policies.

Flat rate taxation is seen as the answer for some countries (with very different economic structures), but may not necessarily work as expected.

Not easy with our complex tax system, allowances, etc. Squeeze hard on one area = generate an issue elsewhere?