September 2022 Stop Order

TBH, even as an employee I’d expect to be told why.

Basic leadership - suggest, request, demand.

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Too many in cadets (both perm staff and other Cfav) believe “because I told you” is an acceptable why.

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The old I’ve got more stripes than you syndrome.

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Could you say why not 20th? Have any cadets missed out here?

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The Scouts’s operation was in place, 24hr notice to get it running, not sure we have anything similar

I see we’ve received comms from CAC, anyone actually able to open it or is it my computer failing to fire?

Can anyone else not open the latest (17.01 today) letter via email?

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Ah, you beat me to it!

It isn’t working on my mobile.

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Its on sharepoint too.

… Sqn dinners cancelled… how many units have lost hundreds if not thousands of pounds due to the shut down!

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Seen now.

Definitely had a slight panic when I read your message though as we’ve got a Sqn dinner in a month or so and I thought there was another pause!

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I had exactly the same thought / heart attack.

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So I can see where it may be considered inappropriate to have a Dining In night during National Mourning, however it’s the cost that is the issue for and a main reason we don’t do a sqn dinner.

We had one of our main fundraising events cancelled last weekend, usually brings in well over £1k so yes, a huge financial impact with the shutdown.
The Cadets however are more put out by the cancellation of their DofE exped, which is looking unlikely to be able to rescheduled before the DofE window closes as the campsite shuts for the season at the end of the month and the group are all not available until November and they won’t consider an expedition without the whole group. To quote one of the group ‘I think the Queen would have liked us to carry on with our expedition than sit at home doing nothing’

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We need to stop calling things “pauses” and start calling them what they really are, “enforced shutdowns”. No one is being fooled by the word pause, we know what they are.

The longer I’m in this organisation the more I need to advocate for detaching and uncoupling the few remaining links we have with the Air Force - they clearly cannot handle us and don’t want us in any meaningful way, other than a nice opportunity to show off how much they “do for the community” once in a while.

And before anyone complains about all the things we’ll miss out on, the Sea Cadets don’t.

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In fact, it may lead to far greater opportunities for things like flying with civilian organisations, and better contacts with other CF units.

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I agree completely that we should move to a SCC/RN style relationship with the RAF. The problem would be finding/forming a charity to take on the running. Though I imagine Civ Comms would be able to take all the non-public money with them.
Paging @Aries

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Associate with the Air League or the RAeS. Or the original model of the ADCC.

Perhaps we could convince them to be the MSSCAC :slight_smile:

You would then probably have RAF regiment detachments in units similar to the Royal Marine Cadets :slight_smile:

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Imagine the required fundraising for the crayon budget.

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I think I’m just fed up with being told how to run a volunteer led, youth minded organisation by people who have never had a job outside the airforce, have never actually engaged with young people or volunteers in any meaningful way and then expect us to be grateful when they give us some crumbs from their table.

The changing of the commission should have been the opportunity to relinquish control by the RAF to a more modern, accountable and knowledgeable charity led organisation.

We don’t really get uniforms. We don’t get any notion of flying and gliding sufficiently for the demand. We don’t get any shooting. The adventure training we do is paid for and facilitated by us. The only possible thing we get is a building (usually in crap condition) and utilities bills paid for, and even then we don’t get rubbish collections, phone lines or any infrastructure.

We need to start questioning our place in this society and why we aren’t doing it better.

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