Morning all,
Just having a think here - what are the policy requirements for cadets to sleep out at their squadron camping style? Are there any specific documents that need to be submitted to gain approval?
TIA
Where and under what conditions?
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Where and under what conditions?
closed area, outside in tents. Early October weather.
Same requirements as staff supervising camping anywhere else.
ACATI 026 page 4
Abbreviations:
BOFUKCC - British Orienteering Federation UK Coaching Council
BEL - Basic Expedition Leader SLUK
LEL - Lowland Expedition Leader SLUK
CCWL - Coastal & Countryside Walking Leader
SMWL - Summer Moorland Walking Leader
LL - Lowland Leader MTUK
HML - Hill and Moorland Leader MTUK
EM Expedition Module MTUK
WGL - Walking Group Leader MTUK
ML(T) - Mountain Leader trained MTUK
ML - Mountain Leader MTUK
ML(W) - Winter Mountain Leader MTUK
IML - International Mountain Leader MTUK
MTUK - Mountain Training UK
SLUK - Sports Leader UK
JSMLT - Joint Service Summer Mountain Leader Training
JSSML - Joint Service Summer Mountain Leader
JSASL - Joint Service Advanced Summer Mountain Leader
JSWMT - Joint Service Winter Mountain Leader Training
JSWML - Joint Service Winter Mountain Leader
RAFAC ESTC - RAFAC Expedition Supervisors Training Course
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I reckon there would also be some RFCA requirements too for sleeping on site?
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Potentially, certainly the building Fire Risk assessment will probably stipulate no staying overnight inside, not sure about outside.
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Is it a requirement for all staff to hold one of these quals, or can just 1?
It’s a ratio of qualified instructor to participant (unqualified staff are sometimes included as participants) with the max ratio being 1:10 but could be down to 1:1.
If so then the TA / AR are breaking those rules all the time. We used to sleep in the Bty bar or on crash mats in the gym.
Depends on the unit. Most cadet units have no need to ever sleep inside overnight, so it’s not risk assessed as part of the first RA. This will almost certainly be different for TA.
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When I was at a unit on an AR centre they could do it but had to post a fire picket, we weren’t allowed to do the same thing.
The first rule comes into effect.
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Which is all well and good until there is an incident, plus the residential caretaker hated my predecessor so I had to play the game.
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Understandable. 
On a similar thread, what are the requirements for over-nighting inside the sqn building? (Sleeping bags on the floor, no tents).
It would be for a 24hr sponsored event, so there will always be some cadets and a staff member awake at any given time.
In hard accommodation there is no qualification requirement so just comes down to if your fire risk assessment allows it.
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And how you safeguard the cadets that are sleeping!
Well, safeguarding should feature in every activities planning 
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Yes, of course! It should be something that almost doesn’t need thinking about as we already do it day-in day-out, and it should be a normal part of what we do. But @Turbo’s case is a little different. If it was a normal overnight activity it would be as simple as splitting cadets by gender/age in the accommodation. But if you’ve just got cadets sleeping randomly in the building, it’s quite different!
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Wasn’t there something about sleeping in non designated accommodation or whatever term is given to it?
That although permitted for regulars and reserves where a permanent fire detection system is in place, it isn’t for cadets?
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