With the rise of neuodiversity awareness in society these days we have seen a rise in cadets declaring neurodiverse conditions on their medical paperwork.
Does anyone have any examples of what a local unit has put in place to assit and accomodate those with neurodiverse conditions. The idea is that we can look into examples that other units have enacted and see if we could offer them and should future cadet A have that condition, we can say this is what we can do to help.
EDIT - I have looked into ACP 15, 29 and the AVIP package plus a bunch of other condition specific posters that I found on sharepoint.
We have overlays and coloured paper for anyone with visual stress and printouts for training sessions.
This question comes after a cadet attended a course and reasonable adjustments were some were put in place but not quite to the level that was needed casuing them to have an autistic shutdown and leaving day 1 earlier than everyone else. Day 2 was better once the DS were made aware and the adjustments were put in place effectively and they attended the full day with no issues and got a positive feedback from the DS staff.
One of our feeder schools is a school for those withā¦ Neurodiversityā¦
Itās a challenge, one I personally am not very good at. Fully hold my hands up to that both on here and at unit. Iāve made some big mistakes and made some cadets unhappy. Mostly because itās not something I fully understand and some people I know have made the point I might be on that side of the fenceā¦
Weāve found that the military discipline and use of ranks when addressing people is very helpful. Fits the routine and authority ideals that the ones who come to us have.
The biggest thing we do is simply give them the time they need. If it takes them a while to come round to certain academic ideas such as with radio or first aid, thatās what we do.
Donāt make them feel stupid or slow, just take it nice and slowly and not worry about the time it takes.
I take quite a chill outlook on uniform issues and messing around, much unlike some uniformed CFAVs on my unit and I find that helps a bit more too. Putting people down over shoes or stuff they canāt sort there and then doesnāt do them any good. Iāll laugh and joke if something isnāt quite right and theyāll get it sorted by next week.
Thatās my advice, just be chill, let them run their own race.
There is obviously better advice than mine, Iād be very welcome to see that also.
Itās a broad brush catchall label but covers off a very broad spectrum of things. And within each of them is a huge range of signs, symptoms, stressors and responses - what works for one young person may not work for another. And what works one week may not work the next - changes in medication, impact of puberty, product of experience and learning something better which works for them can all inform, tweak and adjust the adjustments themselves. For some young people itās a case of ever moving goal posts.
My advice is open and honest dialogue with the young person and their parent. If you can - and parent/carer/young person and the school is willing - dialogue with the school may also help inform what adjustments they are already in receipt of. Having said that, some parents and young people are entirely clueless to the adjustments and subtle nuances made to help accomodate their needs!! For the students they sometimes are unaware of the additional support in place - for them itās ātheir normalā. These plans have different names in different parts of the country - EHCP, Statements, IEPs, SAP etc.
The document alone without context can be a minefield for staff - largely untrained in the ways of SEND and education - to navigate. As such, a conversation to help interpret it can be helpfulā¦ If the school is willing!
However, remember we already have the young people in an entirely different context from school. Itās voluntary. Structured. More uniformed than school. And with that approach, we (as CFAV) often have a very different approach from school. Iāve heard from teaching staff many times āOMG - you did what with them at the weekend? How the hell did you get them to do that?ā. And itās because we come from a totally different angle.
Anyways. Iāll write up some potential adjustments over the next few days. But these are specific for individuals Iāve worked with. They may not work for allā¦
I agree with your point, its specific to each person but alot of conditions have similar/overlapping characterisitics.
I have spoken to a few with neurodiverse conditions and a few have similar things in place such as the coloured paper and other ones for ADHD/ASD such as quiet spaces.
So I am sure things that work for some could work for others.
Iām CCF, so our school always shares SEND information with us, including a cadetās normal way of working in school, but Iāve had similar frustrations with another youth (music) thing Iām involved with: schools wonāt talk to us, not even with parental permission at times. That frustrates me immensely (and is out of line with education policy, too, which is all about āmulti-agency workingā) - as long as parents are happy, we should be told how X or Y usually manages in school, what strategies have been successful, etc.
That doesnāt mean we canāt try a new approach - as stated above, sometimes in a different context, or with a different approach, we can get a better result!
Even with non CCF units the cadets medical history to an extent is shared.
If the parents are open and honest and declare it on the health form they have to fill out, then its there and should prompt conversation. Its just the issue of data protection and the amount of people who need to know. So if often makes it hard to help them due to having to keep the infomation to small circles.
Its a difficult position to be in with regards to cadet NCOs knowing something is off but us staff not being able to say its due to XYZ.
Maybe you should suggest an update to SMS to include details of how that persons learning can be helped.
For Cadets and CFAVs this isnāt something that would be classed as medical so could be shared more widely and would mean those with unique needs could be better catered for.
Helping someone to learn doesnāt necessarily mean they have to be neurodiverse either, could be they have other disabilities.
I think this needs to be something picked up by ASPIRE. All the content Iāve seen from ASPIRE has been focused on LGBT related issues, which should be one strand of what ASPIRE offers, not the sole focus - which is how it feels. Thereās zero point in having a group that focuses on promoting diversity and inclusion, if it only focuses on one area of diversity and inclusion; kind of defeats the pointā¦
Input on neurodiversity would be very welcome. Weāve had a number of cadets with ASD over the years for example, and whilst weāve done our best, some better guidance and support would be helpful.
The best advice I can give is to speak to parents and cadets and make it clear at joining that disclosing anything on a medical form doesnāt necessarily mean theyāll be precluded from taking part in anything, but that if you know about it you can help make sure they are included.
Weāve had some real dinosaurs and idiots in our wing in the past complaining and giving people a hard time for being ādifficultā on a camp, saying things like āI wonāt take them againā. I reckon nearly all the issues can be avoided completely by good open communication.
For example, weāve just had a new joined who is being assessed for ADHD. All I did was ask their mum āwhat techniques, strategies and tips work at school or work at home that you can share with us, to help support them whilst theyāre here?ā.
We had a parent who was excellent who, along with a TG23, sent a ācheat sheetā of how to support their child, things you might see and what that might mean, how to support them if theyāre presenting in certain ways. It was amazing, and something Iāll remember for a long time.
Thereās a difference though between knowing about the cadetās conditions, and knowing how those are usually managed in school. The latter isnāt always available.
If anyone wants to ask specific questions, feel free to DM me and Iād be very happy to try and help answer them. Iāve led some neurodiversity training locally, and spoken to the ASPIRE team about doing something a little more broadly.
Itās almost impossible to suggest blanket adjustments, even for specific conditions. Everyone with ADHD experiences it differently. Everyone with ASD experiences it differently. Comorbid conditions (e.g. ADHD and Autism, or ADHD and Dyscalculia) just complicates it further.
The only blanket advice that would actually work is to talk to the cadet about what they need. The majority of neurodiverse cadets Iāve spoken to recently have been very happy to talk about what they need, and often itās just time, repetition, or for you to be understanding about āstupidā questions.
Can we also include CFAVs in any changes that are made? Late diagnosis of neuro diversity is on the increase but people even without a diagnosis do often know if they need some help to learn things. As a training organisation we need to train CFAVs to train cadets so itās best we are as inclusive to the CFAV element as possible.
My squadron is lucky enough to have a highly experienced member of staff, working with neuro diverse and disabled children daily, but not all have that. We have a (I would say a āproudā) track record of regularly accepting and supporting ASD and neurodiverse cadets and also have parents of each on our committee at the at the moment.
But itās highly believable that there are units out there that simply havenāt yet found themselves attracting as broad a range of needs and presentations, and their volunteers not being personally experienced with or exposed to such diversity.
Iām sorry to you that this is your experience of us, but agree thereās a case that we should have better signposted resources internally, though we do have what we call ACP 15 (Inclusion Policy) and ACP 29 (Guide to Supporting Individual Needs in a Training Environment). Both of those could possibly benefit from the availability of further resources as they are very general and surface level in many of the conditions discussed, but then we have an Inclusion Team with reps and contacts in each wing and region.
I donāt think it would apply in your case based on whatās described, but region HSEP advisors are also able to provide specialised, individual risk assessments where there are physical or site hazard aspects that may need to be considered.