RAFAC Training Academy

you forgot: attending to tick off a box on the SNCO promotion matrix!

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Dont know how specific you want to get.
But it’s right there.

If they only EVER attend AND NEVER do admin.

Who cares!? I don’t care if they never plan anything… For as long as they turn up and take the role of delivering then they are NOT a moocher.

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:rofl::joy::rofl::joy::rofl::joy:

Ahhh, there it is… The stock reply…

Even if that’s the case, they’re still not a moocher. If someone is turning up at weekends delivering an activity, idc if they don’t help with planning. If I can rely on them to be there and instruct, that’s good enough for me.

I agree with your sentiment that not all of us can be that person, but that’s not what’s being said.

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THE TOPIC??? Where did it go???

One minute it’s a post about a FTRS vacancy at HQAC, then suddenly we’re discussing finer points of the lost art of mooching???

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Lost item.

If found, please post, hurry…

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Late to this discussion but…I can generate qualified people (CFAVs). Yet you want me to deliver cadet activities over and above this. Which do you want - cadet activities, or qualified people? I don’t have the weekends to do both.

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True enough…

I think it is primarily a name change. Although there are some new options for courses and new options for delivery being considered it is primarily a rebrand at this point.

I think a much needed one. The “Adult” in ATF always seemed unnecessarily ‘primary school’ to me.
The change to being an “academy” is, as some have picked up on, to follow the lead of the RAF naming.
Part of the justification given by the Commandant was “A ‘Facility’?.. That’s a building…”
He’s not wrong. The name now better describes the function. Even if I can’t stand the word ‘Academy’ I can’t argue there.

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Exactly this, I have an ML who is a Course Director for LLA, what brings more benefit to the Organisation, running a Bronze Expedition for 7 Cadets or delivering an LLA Course for 6 CFAV’s?

Hopefully they will look at optional courses to aid in delivering activities and not just more mandatory stuff that takes a week out of your life and a year out of your soul.

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This right here! Make some awesome courses for those who want to get better. Be that for planning activities, running squadrons, being a WSO or what ever. But don’t make it compulsory.

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I would imagine that they will still be primarily mandatory training and drill courses. They’re a small team of three instructors at the moment and the calendar is fairly busy with OIC, SSIC, SSDIC, SSDIC(A), and SCC.

Bringing in sufficient additional instructors in a range of subject matter areas would likely require too much funding.

I imagine that we might be looking to Regions to deliver more specialist training. We seem to be boosting Region roles at the moment…

I think this should be the case - but it would need a drastic change in how roles are viewed. My role has zero requirement for actually delivering anything in the terms of reference - it’s purely a governance role. I do the delivery side because a) it’s a force multiplier and has a massive benefit downstream and b) I enjoy it.

If each function was to be formally tasked with delivering specialised training then you will need more primary roles. As an AT side of things, I’d expect you’d need at least 3-4 primary post holders, each one requiring them to be a course director for the relevant NGB for each of the core activities (e.g. one walking, another one does paddling, another MTB etc. plus the overall management role).

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And in this case, you could bin off all the WATTOs and have each region specialist sign off the activities in their area too.

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I suppose really I’d imagined that Regions would attempt to coordinate Region-wide training by sharing the load around the Wing specialists.
That seems to be a plan for the uniform pathways courses in LaSER - Get the 6 Wg WOs to deliver certain elements on a rotational basis.

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Which only works in some functional areas. Not so much in AT - in a whole region I only have 2 LLA course directors, 3 MIAS course directors and 2 PSI / FSRT / Paddlesport leader directors. I am one of those for LLA and PSI; so there isn’t actually that much resource for this kind of stuff spread around the Wings. Which is why you’d need the primary post to be at Region, to ensure that people’s priorities are directed accordingly - if you hold that post, you are working to deliver staff training for the whole region as your primary priority.

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Depends on what you see the role of the WATTO as, most do a shed load more than just the governance. (Some don’t and should be kicked to the kerb).

Indeed. I don’t necessarily think it’s the best option; but what I half-expect to find.

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Oh for sure, some are awesome and deliver a hell of a lot. Some barely sign of AT apps…

What I’m suggesting though is currently each region has a RATTO and 6 WATTOs. Why not instead have a RATTO and six area specialists? (Walking, climbing, paddling, etc etc)

Same number of primary posts but they’d be more focused?

Just an idea :stuck_out_tongue: