Yes, true.
But i am only talking about the stabdard of access to service in this new future vs what we have now that works very well.
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Ive just clockedā¦
This is why the last letter from tony about subs talks about no chnages to the payment up the chain until 2025ā¦ (i think from memory this is right)
So when this is rolled outā¦
Is that amount to wing going to increase hugely?
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Now youāre just spouting fallacies. Governance/oversight =/= lack of access.
The second part is a slippery slope that ignores reasonable expectation of administration and operational requirements.
Before anyone gets too excited and we are reduced to widespread fantasy that reads between lines that arenāt there, letās keep to sensible interpretations of what we know.
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Panic is only in the eye of the witness.
But yes. I know.
Another seperate Q.
Where if it is wing civ com led. Will they find people to.do this work.
Most wing civ.coms are waaaay understaffed.
If no.sqn civ coms.
That means wing will have to find trustees for the wing civ.com?
Will this quickly becoming a husbands and wivea of staff group?
Have seen sometthing similar with another national body years ago.
Coalface structure removed. So HQ couldnt staff a volunteer level at hq.
Led to it being filled with voluntold spouses.
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If money held centrally. Why would we still even need sqn civ coms?
The line about finding a way to recognise sqn level support makes me ask.
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Defo going to get the civ com to clear the accounts down.
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See i was thinking about thisā¦and i think/hope/could work like this, similar to how my expenses work at work and this is a bit of a punt of an idea butā¦
I have access to 2k/random number at any timeā¦i can spend it as i pleaseā¦as long as i have receipts, if i need it topped up to that 2k again (obviously the sqn will need enough of their own funds to top up)ā¦then i need to submit what ive spent what ive spent (which the receipts must match what ive spent) to have it topped up.
Any major purchases i need to provide a quote and then the cost gets transferred pre purchase aslong as im within my quarterly budget (aka total Sqn funds avaliable)
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Well itās not going to magically replenish itself is it?
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Down to letting blunties with a blunty mindset run the train set.
Itās not turnover but income. If youāre turning over Ā£60k a year then your income is going to be running close to the Ā£100k threshold.
However I believe the threshold is far lower of around Ā£5k income if the Sqn owns land in its own right.
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Am I being daft? Break this down for me.
Donāt think so. Turnover is gross income/total revenue.
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Sorry my fault. my understanding was that income was total monies raised where turnover was net profit.
A quick google shows that those definitions are not so simple & can even vary from country to country.
So my thoughts were that if your net profit is circa Ā£60k pa then your income would be approaching the Ā£100k pa mark.
Yeah so many terms for the same thingā¦ until you reach margin vs profit.
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The current system is just a bad idea on so many levels. Being a fully registered charity is just not a good idea for a lot of good causes, it limits your ability to spend the money in a compliant way, puts a lot of legal responsibilities on the heads of people who probably donāt even realise they now have them, and is unnecessary.
Other organisations are doing the same, and some wish they could, but are stuck. I know one trust that would ideally love to get out of being a charity, but if they did, they fear they would lose their funds altogether.
Maybe im being thick.
Are you saying we will cease to be charoties or excepted charities etc?
If so. Thats over half my grant options gone.
It appears that each unit will cease to be a charity, but I imagine that there will be a wing charitable trust managing the finances of each unit.
I actually think that would work, but only if you then allowed people to register in their own right as a full charity with the charity commission.
That way, oversight is provided to all as a base line and those that have the availability and inclination to do more and have their own responsibilities could do so and be held to account by the charity commission separately.
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Iāll be interested to see how this affects how easy (or not) it is to see whoās playing subs.
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