Promotion Matrix

Adult Staff
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The two years start from appointment apparently, although it turns out you need to do at least a full year post OIC before you can get your promotion. Or at least that’s what delayed mine as the system tells them that. Not written anywhere that I could find but I kind of gave up arguing with them.
Like I said, the system is full of holes with no-one sense checking that what one group are telling us matches with what the other group are doing.

That’s like me. I’ll have done 3 years because of Covid OIC delays

What makes the most sense is that the people processing the commissioning scrolls/gazette entries are getting it wrong as everything else works nicely then. But they are completely clear that completion of OIC/probation is the correct date

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Just having a look at the SNCO Promotion Matrix, and what constitutes an executive role at camp? Would helping staff the RIAT First Aid Team be an executive role? Would it be Drill & Discipline? Doesn’t seem to pinpoint exactly what is being asked for.

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Camp Comm, WO, trg off or adj usually

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Has the new one been published?

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I’d add Camp WO to that list

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Yep pers Form 302

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Eh? I need to take a look at this - how often are those roles delegated to NCOs?

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How often do you get to actually go on camp…?

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I’ve never seen it.

This Is a massive issue.
Why is this such a requirement on the form.

Is it because camps are viewed as such an important training requirement.

Or is it because HQAC thinks this will force more staff to go on camps and therefore help support the ailing concept which is a ‘blues camp’.

Blues camps are dead. Simple.
Pull the plug HQAC.

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The copy on SharePoint was updated June?
I thought there was another update to come?

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Think that was the agreed matrix

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Depends on the sort of Camp.

Residential Training Courses all the time, Ditto Adventure Training & DofE.

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It still says “FS (ATC)” and “WO (ATC)”…

Also, is the ceremonial parade bit new? Can’t say I’ve has cause to keep up to date…

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The camps I’ve been on have had SNCOs as Camp WO but all other roles have been filled by officers (apart from one where the camp trg off was a CI).

There are too few camps now for all those who need to complete the matrix to attend. Or it means people due for promotion are picked to attend over an SME.

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Is this an attempt to limit the number of promotions?

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I forgot Dep Camp Comm but not all camps I e been on have one of those.

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Nah, more likely just rules put in place by an HQ that’s massively out of touch with the reality.

Incompetence rather than malice, IMO.
And innocent, at that, too.

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I would argue this is always the case with HQAC.

I have never known malice.

But the sheer level of incompetence is often staggering.

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Resurrecting an old thread for an FYI

ACP20 has been updated (this time under the radar) with a new SNCO/WO Matrix albeit changes not highlighted. Officially states that WO promotion are only to be given for a vacant role the Rgnl Comdt deems WO rank is essential. In gospel now rather than email chains etc

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Great. Another kick in the teeth for volunteers for no benefit.

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