Sort of making the arguement there for all CFAVs entering as sgts and then either continuing in nco cadre or ‘late entry commissioning’.
That’s what I did, so there’s nothing wrong with it!
That said, some have got no interest in the drilly dressy stuff, and want to do planning and leading right away… why not let them
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I know plenty of times that OC Catering, OC MT, OC maintenance school has been a WO for many years…
I think we are comparing to RAF Sqn OCs.
A couple of hundred people with multiple specialisms and a plethora of different and (some) advanced technologies, probably some vehicles, spanning multiple buildings?
Sounds like a reasonable comparison to 1234 Anywhere in its shack with 20 cadets, 5 staff, a minibus and a handful of Baofengs…
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Don’t tell OC Catering that his Sqn is not a Sqn… 
Is this related to the promotion matrix?
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Or making the argument to abolish the NCO Cadre completely?
It seems illogical to maintain two different staff types, if the only difference is that NCOs can attend the drill courses, and Officers can’t. Push the DI stuff down onto cadet SNCOs, and create a DI course which becomes a prerequisite for Cdt FS. The ATF (or whatever it’s called these days) staff would be free to act in the same capacity as SASC do for SATT teams - drop into courses to ensure sessions are run to the correct standards.
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Or just make it that officers can?
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We could do that, Absolutely. Or even allow CI’s to become DI’s, and let them wear blues with a CI rank tab… 
Keep it on topic or I’ll just start deleting posts…
The matrix looks sensible and lists some qualifications that were missed off the old version.
The requirement to attend camps could be troublesome if we don’t get Residentials back this year or even next.
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Ultimately I wouldn’t look at the qualifications as an exhaustive list (I don’t think anyone sensible would). I’d happily accept a suitable equivalent qualification whether it’s on the list or not.
What was particularly sensible was the removal of AFA as an appropriate qual to tick the box - since we’ve all got to have it (or equivalent) anyway it doesn’t demonstrate anything beyond peers.
The emphasis now is upon skills and level of responsibility.
Camp places are limited and I would think that any Wg WO and OC Wg worth their salt would recommend to the RC an otherwise suitable candidate for promotion where the only thing missing is the lack of attendance at a 5-day camp.
If, for example, that person has attendances at 2, 3, 4, (more) weekend courses every year over the last 4 years then I’d say that satisfies the intent, and I’d certainly be making that case.
What about if instead of having a matrix, make all ranks time served, but link position to VA.
So, for a generic weekend activity:
Activity IC and Dep IC - Sqn Ldr equivalent pay.
Qualified Instructors - WO / Flt Lt equivalent pay
Other Instructors - Fg Off / FS equivalent pay
Staff as Students on Courses - Sgt / Plt Off equivalent pay.
Staff acting as OC Squadrons also get a VA daily bonus - £10 due to the nature of being a Sqn OC
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Actually seems quite logical.
Might need policing to make sure more senior staff don’t take the IC roles then ask their juniors on the lower rate to do all the hard graft.
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Isnt that pretty much what happens now anyway?
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I think it would be all the more the case if pay were event role related.
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Its called the Chain of Command
I have the responsibility but you do the work…
…and if it goes pear shaped I take you down with me…
… unless I can sacrifice you to save me…
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as i understand it when a HQAC member explained it to me that is pretty much how pay will be split, but rather than four levels, just the two
Director - higher tier rate
participant - lower tier rate
not to say I don’t like your proposal - i like there is at least one more level as on a Wing Radio course I would regularly support there would be three directors and no participants, yet one CFAV would do far less than the three others
i like there is more resolution in your scheme to highlight better focus on the actual role
No we dont.
Minimum FA qual for staff of any rank is HS.
There is no mandatory requirement for staff to.
hold AFA or equivalent.