In lieu of HQAC-sanctioned O365 education, anyone got any info on the best resources for function insight and tutorials for using these things via the online channels (or can we download and use them offline through the main apps)?
I found them to be quite intuitive but I’m sure there are probably plenty of online tutorials as they are standard microsoft products.
I’m not sure whether there are desktop versions of any but I suspect that - like Outlook - our licence probably only applies to the online versions which can be found at:
MS Forms - forms.office.com
MS Planner - tasks.office.com
MS Power Automate - flow.microsoft.com
Sign in using your @aircadets.org details and have a play.
Power Automate is the more complicated of the three as there are so many potential options and a google for “MS Flow tutorial” or similar will probably help.
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An update regards eM Client for those of us who’ve been using it… Having recently received the “We don’t think you qualify for a free license - give us yer dosh” email it has this evening stopped working.
Clearly not following the WinRAR business model…
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I too have been nobbled by eM Client, exchanged emails with them about the voluntary and charity nature of my use case and got an offer of a 30% discount but no more. They have kindly barred my 2 computers so I cannot even use it for my personal email even though that does qualify for the free license, thus I am not inclined to give them any money.
After 48 hours of trying alternatives etc, I found that you CAN use ActiveSync with Outlook - Microsoft just make it difficult because they don’t want you to.
First up, I’ve tried this on two computers with -
Windows 10 with Outlook 2019
Excuse if this reads too like teach granny to suck eggs -
- Quit Outlook completely.
- Open Control Panel (windows icon then type “Control Panel”)
- Click User Accounts
- Click Mail (Microsoft Outlook 2016)
- Click Client Email Accounts
- Click New
- “Manual setup of additional server types” & Next
- “Exchange ActiveSync” & Next
- Fill in. Mail server is “outlook.office365.com”. Username is your full email address. & Next.
At this point you should get a “Test Account Settings” box which may hang around for a while. Wait for it to fail then continue.
- Open Task Manager - Right click on the windows icon to find it.
- You will see “Windows Host Process” and inside that “Mail Setup - Outlook”.
- Highlight “Windows Host Process” and click “End Task”.
13 Start Outlook as normal.
You should now find your BADER email box along with your other email boxes (if you have any).
I hope that helps. Its worked for me on two computers and all is syncing and working fine.
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Hmmm.
I may have to upgrade Office from 2010 because it does not seem to support it.
Thanks for the tip.
This wins the internet for today. Worked for me!
Tip confirmed working with Office 2016.
Further digging suggests that it should be possible to connect to O365 with earlier versions (Office 2007 and 2010) as well… General setup explained here: https://help.ionline.co.za/article/99-setting-up-exchange-365-in-outlook-2010-and-2013 for those who are using it.
However the required option for “Anonymous Authentication” was missing for me.
No amount of googling could discover a solution. Everything just suggested that if the option is missing then you are missing updates for Office. I routinely kept my installation up to date so that was not my problem. Indeed, trying to install the various hotfixes which claimed to add the option failed (as expected) with the error “the expected product version was not found” - because my version was already newer.
Further update… It’s not a perfect solution.
Access to the “address book” directory seems to be missing so there is no autocomplete, Ctrl-K doesn’t work any more.
It is also no longer possible (as it used to be and as could be done in eM Client) to drag and drop between accounts.
That’s a bit of a shame.
It is somewhat ridiculous that any third party mail program which supports Exchange Web Services such as eM Client, Thunderbird (with the Exquilla add-on), Hexamail, and any number of free phone apps can make full use of the system with ease; yet Microsoft’s own Office Outlook can’t.
I wonder if they could speed up the movement to the individual accounts and access to Teams etc to help with the closing of units and remote meetings.
You folk all might be interested in this
https://rafac.sharepoint.com/sites/BADERHub/SitePages/Improved-Bader-Licences-(E1).aspx
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Hello Outlook my old friend 
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Update following my testing.
Those of us who have previously added our accounts to Outlook using the above hack will probably need to remove and re-add them to gain the full functionality (I had to). The automatic setup works.
After that we have access to account profile (photos &c), mailbox cleanup, and server rules.
We can again drag and drop email into other accounts.
Ctrl-K works.
Any group contacts we have created are back (they did not appear in Outlook using the hack).
Outlook 2010 still fails to accept the account, as it did using the hack, presumably still owing to the lack of anonymous authentication. If that authentication method is present I would assume it should work.
I suspect that teams will be useful once they turn it on.
I wonder whether the Outlook connector in MS Power Automate (MS Flow) is working now… Yes it is.
BE WARNED
Adding the accounts to my main outlook profile has gone and reset it, deleting all my personal inbox rules. I’d back things up first if I were you…
Further… It has also somehow linked my personal inbox with one of the three Bader accounts I’ve setup. Now all the personal inbox rules I have imported back in have been pushed to the Bader server. FFS
I recall having this problem way back when adding bader accounts to Outlook. I got around it back then by setting up a separate Outlook profile for Bader mail and using ExtraOutlook to run two separate instances at the same time - one for each profile.
Sadly, ExtraOutlook does not work with Office 2016, and Bader O365 doesn’t work with Office 2010… Grrrr.
Further investigation into my above issue…
For some bizarre reason known only to Microshaft, whilst Outlook lets you separately edit rules for each of multiple exchange accounts, it forces a link between the primary exchange account (the first one you add) and any POP3 accounts which are also present in the profile. I have yet to discover what else it might also link.
It does not seem to be possible to prevent this behaviour.
Option 1 is to first export any inbox rules BEFORE adding the exchange accounts (otherwise you’ll find that your rules have vanished. In that case you’ll need to remove all the exchange accounts - your original inbox rules will then reappear after restarting Outlook).
You can then add the exchange accounts (consider that the one you add first will become the primary account and your new rules will be uploaded to it - probably best not to use the generic account if you can avoid it) then import the rules you exported in the previous step. They will still be stored on the Bader server (and will be listed in the settings for anyone accessing that account).
They must be edited in Outlook to tick the box for “on this computer only” and/or “through the specified account” (and select the appropriate POP3 account).
Doing this will prevent the Bader server from trying to run them.
Option 2 would be to replace the POP3 access to your personal email with IMAP since Outlook doesn’t link IMAP with exchange.
Which accounts have now had Teams enabled?
looks like bader emails have, staff anyway
All BADER accounts
cadets one not activated as of yet
Enabled, yes, although I don’t think I have permission to create new teams?
Please read this update relating to the first phase of the Microsoft Teams rollout before making requests.
https://rafac.sharepoint.com/sites/BADERHub/SitePages/Microsoft-Teams-Deployment---Phase-1.aspx