A spot of CCF/ATC cooperation in mind? 
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Just realised I can reuse my post from 9 days agoâŚ
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Iâve said it before (possibly this week) making events harder rather than banning them completely is the âpauseâ culture creeping in.
Reducing the likelihood of events taking place =lower risks
(That should read)
âŚat any event or activity?
Iâm not suggesting CFAVs are pouring vodka over their morning cornflakes or drinking past midnight regularly let alone in the 8 hours prior to a Cadet event but seriously how is anyone going to knowâŚdo we know now (pre-policy) when ppl stopped drinking?
But not on our face #beardsrule
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I would just like to state for the record, that, should any pictures of my sqns dining in night end up on social media, ALL the drinks you can see in the pictures are non-alcoholic. Honest.
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There is an all important caveat that doesnât work (I donât think) at dining in nights as you wouldnât be off duty
âBy exception, CFAVs may, when off duty and out with the necessary supervisory ratios, consume moderation at external functions, in military messes and when deployed.â
What I read from this is that as long as there are CFAVâs that havenât had a drink and supervisory ratios are correct, others could still have something.
Doesnât work at squadron dining in nights because alcohol isnât to be served if cadets are present full stop.
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Considering existing policy was to have an on duty ratio of sobers, is this change more weighted towards considering the potential influence on cadets being around their (hopefully) respected leaders and mentors drinking?
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This!
The policy means that cadets wonât see moderate, responsible drinking by staff that followed the old rules. Drinking in moderation set a good example for cadets, many of whom already drink.
Some cadets will still see irresponsible, excessive drinking by the same staff that didnât follow the old rules, because theyâll ignore the new rules too.
Iâd prefer to enforce the existing rules rather than a draconian restriction on everyone.
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But then then whole statement contradicts itself.
No drinks when cadets are present but you can if supervisory ratios are maintained and those that do have a drink are off duty (Overnight camps) and then can only do so in moderation
AND there are no cadets present e.g. youâre in the Officers Mess or whatever and theyâre off in their accommodation and there are suitable ratios of not drinking staff to take care of them.
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Exactly. How many camps set up a CFAV âmessâ that does not allow entrance to cadets and a duty team for the evening.
The only thing this appears to have effected is dining in nights.
Plus fundraising, we used to make well over 50% of the money at our Quiz Nights, Race Nights and BBQâs over the bar.
Itâs things like that which probably werenât considered when the policy was put together.
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What I did at one dinner was after the meal the adult retired to the bar which was in a separate room to the cadets.
Only the duty staff could go into where the cadets were & they didnât drink.
Adult as such were not drinking in the presence of the cadets & this was kept strictly separate.
What I am probably going to do is speak to our venue well ahead of time & see if we can get the non-alcoholic /low alcoholic alternatives.
It might allow the bar to still make money with us also complying with the rules. They can also use us as a trial for their other customers.
Then the 1.5% is taken from the three schools Iâve worked in the 24 months surely. At least half of the kids vape.
How are the big wigs defining âservedâ?
If I host a fundraising raffle, a parent wins a bottle of wine as a prize and they open it there and then, have I technically served them?
I would probably have to go with the legal interpretation of supplied, after all if I had a raffle and you won a gram of Cocaine I would definitely fall foul of the relevant offences under the Misuse of Drugs Act.
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But alcohol is not illegal Class A.
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