National Townhalls

Is this still a thing? My sqn used to have a regt/special/field training flt, with black cap badges, regt rank slides, and other unauthorised badges worn with combats.

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I was more opining a generalisation of a faction/philosophy - the mindset is true in some but reality is that people are a bit more nuanced.

Sure some sqns have gone full regiment flight

Did suggest the idea/concept here

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In some wings and regions its far more seemless.

Areas of interest within the shooters doing both L98 and L81, CISSAM and ISCRM. Lots of activity. The L81 deckchair-sitting, Pimms-Drinking, bullet polishers, :wink: :kissing_heart: supporting the 98ers…

The new fieldcraft manual, now combines L98 to progress to the higher levels.

Support Air Rifle at sqn/sector level.

Just my views at a local level.

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Just admit it… it was your flight and you were the only member, because the others just weren’t ally enough. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

I can feel @AlexCorbin shuddering from here

Regt Flt was history by the time I got onto what had become ‘Special Flt’ and almost immediately became ‘Field Training Flt’. Within that flt, the two of us responsible for selection and training wore regt rank slides, others wore different illegal badges (nav and engr brevets, telecommunications badge, etc.)

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Were you from a squadron on the southcoast, near a major port?

No. I guess we weren’t the only ones then?

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The word is used.

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Something that’s being suggested is that the town hall have more of a discussion forum opportunity rather than policy announcements so things can be shaped before implementing.

As a topic suggestion, Squadron Owned Vehicles & the processes around them particularly as they are civilian owned vehicles so standard RAF MT processes don’t apply in the same way due to the operators difference.

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Totally agree. Needs to inckude FMT105 policy, rest hours before driving MT vehicles, use of minibuses abroad, tachometer rules in Europe, calibration requirements.

I can’t seem to get on the Town Hall tonight. What’s going on with it?

So, anything of interest from tonight? Can’t make it so would be good to get any insights.

L81s due to be retired in 2026 and due to cost they won’t be replaced. A knock on is L144 will be ended as it’s the stepping stone to the L81.

We will have air rifle and L98 only.

They are looking to roll out an air rifle SAAI course as well and the Short Range RCO course will be revamped.

There are plans to get more air rifles and temp ranges out there.

Yet as always all of the above could change and is subject to sign off.

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Since when is the L144 a stepping stone to L81. Surely it’s AR, L144, L98, L81? (In that order)

Using the L81 as an excuse to remove small bore shooting seems like a stretch.

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Similar drills and progression, traditionally you had to do No 8 before anything else anyway.

They had us change the L144 drills from L98 progression to the L81 progression and target rifle style drills to enable more movement in that direction.

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L98 shooting is completely different to L81 shooting.

The l98 isn’t a target rifle & is a different discipline.

Of the weapons to go the L98 is the one I would miss the least

Where are you getting this info from, and if true is the equipment to be funded? So far everyone who has this in place has had to spend ÂŁ1000s of hard raised money.

57 questions asked tonight with a fair bit of duplication. I’m currently going through them and they’ll all be posted on the shooting portal later next week with answers.

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If you were referring to the initial WHT for the 144 that required an “ease springs” on a bolt action then it was god awful & dangerous & written by someone who has no understanding of bolt action rifles worked.

The L98 is a complex weapon system and unlike anything else we use.

The other weapons are for learning the principles of marksmanship which you then apply when use the L98.

Perhaps we should petition for the return of the L98A1 so we can have it classed as section 1 again.