Wouldn’t it just be “Air Cadets”, as already exists?
Or, seeing how we are the Royal Air Force Air Cadets, wouldn’t it be “Royal Air Force” as already exists?
Maybe they’ll just have us wear one on top of the other?
That is my understanding as well. When the time comes to swap my commission, I’ll have to acquire some PCS, I guess!
Are those the CS95 cut in MTP colours? One of my cadets has one, and it looks a lot smarter IMO. My Warrant Officer had a look through the regulations the first time he wore it. If I remember correctly, they prohibit the use of the “Barrack” shirt for RAFAC personnel, but isn’t it actually called something else (Lightweight Jacket, Tropical rings a bell…)?
I believe that the ‘Barrack’ shirt referred to is the CS95 cut shirt (jacket) in MTP material; in my wing we had an e-mail last year which clarified this. It would be a far more sensible choice of garment for any of our activities and I can attest that they are just as comfortable as the original CS95 - not that I would disobey our dress regs.
I think there are 3 types, there is the original CS95 Pattern in MTP, there is the MTP PTS and there is the new Barrack Dress MTP Shirt.
The RAF hasn’t adopted the Barrack Dress shirt on the basis that RAF Barrack address is Blue.
For Cadets and CFAV it’s pretty much accepted (or is where I am) that since we are begging, borrowing and stealing as long as it’s one of the 3 uniform shirts no one cares.
I certainly think they look smarter, and save on the need to find blanking patches too!
I think that’s a good attitude To take! To be honest, I don’t really care if it’s a non issue item, as long as it looks vaguely similar to MTP or DPM!
In Northern Ireland the Wing Commander has refused to allow staff or cadets to move into MTP despite the fact that some cadets and staff have it. We are now faced with running out of C95 and , cant issue new cadets with C95
He’s definitely not allowed to do that.
He can’t do that. its in dress regs.
I remember some time ago, another Wing Commander did the same until a word in his ear by his Gp Cpt put him right. Turns out he didn’t have any MTP so wouldn’t allow anyone else to wear it.
I’ve seen recent photos of cadets in the Pre-CS95 DPM uniform. I had to do a double take!
Is that because they think that being in DPM (where you can wear the ‘Air Cadets’ force identifier) will stop them being mistaken for regular forces?
The regs are there to keep us safe, we must adhere to them…
To answer the original question our staff team has made a 100% transition to MTP PCS. However there is only 3 uniformed members of staff on our squadron.
We usually get our MTP PCS through private purchase or grab some whenever we can from wherever we can.
When the initial allowance to wear MTP came out, I made it so that we waited until the next few months before staff could wear it. That way it allowed us to purchase / scrounge it, and make the move over in one go. Had 6 uniform staff at the time, and that still worked well.
In my wing, I’ve only noticed a small handful of staff still in DPM. Some are brand new and have been issued stock from sqn. Others are the old and bold who refuse to change…
The ATC never managed the transition to CS95! I still see, this year, cadets in 80s pattern kit with 58 pattern webbing.
i saw a couple of cadets from one Sqn wearing the old ‘cadet combat jacket’ fairly recently - they had no top pockets for some unfathomable reason…
most of my Sqn are in PCS MTP or CS95 MTP - its only sizing that prevents any of the cadets being in MTP, and the staff are all in it now.
In that case I shall have to get out my 80’s Para Smock, OG trousers and hairy shirt with Cranwell DMS boots and puttees
Since I have to provide it myself that should be fine - if it was issued then I could make sure it is current and correct. That will get the stick wavers shaking
Anyone with some old battledress to wear
surely its got to be an almost bleached windproof smock and fluerescent tropics?
jungle boots?
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