Geetings, in my squadron there is a debate between the NCO’s about my MTP Barracks Uniform whether it should be ironed to be having creases like No2 and treat it as a CS95 MTP uniform or just not having the creases for it. I have checked in ACP 1358 yet from what I have found did not state anythng about having creases. Cheers!
Yes, creases in the sleeves. Not in MTP trousers though.
I was told no with CS95. No straight lines in nature. Army do creates, Air force don’t.
Never seen a barracks in the woods though!
Will also add that the barracks shirt isn’t scaled for the RAF and we’re only allowed to use it as it’s private purchase and could be bought in perfectly good faith. There’s no hard and fast rules but everyone I know who’s sported one (myself shamefully included) has put creases in the sleeves
Context is key. All the talk about “no straight lines in nature” applies when wearing combat uniform in the field which, for most people, is different rig to what they’d wear in the classroom or around barracks. In the latter settings, it’s a uniform and should be maintained as such.
Fair enough. I’ve always been taught crease free.
Everyone with one in work wears no creases.
I think if the enemy can spot the creases in your uniform then not even camouflage will help you
I tend to go with yes to creases in CS95 (DPM or MTP) and no to creases in PCS MTP.
I’m going no, simply because ironing - particularly hot ironing - fades MTP, and given that this stuff isn’t free, turning it from ‘good’ into ‘bad’ should be actively discouraged.
IMV it should not be ironed: if you’re sufficiently far away that you can’t tell if it’s ironed them it doesn’t matter that it’s not, and if your close enough to see whether it’s ironed or not you should be concentrating on what your doing - planning, teaching, weapons/kit maintainance - and not worrying about whether it’s ironed or not.
My Sqn wears MTP most parade nights from Easter to October - we have a large outside, grassed space where we do our maintenance, cleaning, training, lectures, first aid training, map reading etc… the cadets wear MTP trousers, boots, and green t-shirts.
Firstly it doesn’t matter if they get a bit dirty, secondly only about half our cadets have got a full set of blue uniform…
If you want to follow ACP1358 strictly, this is what it says. Page 55, 0226 for CS95. Page 57, 0228 for PCS-MTP.
Ironically, AP 1358 doesn’t include the clauses about ironing PCS flat: someone from the ACO added it.
Why is it ironic when the shirt isn’t scaled of issued for the RAF? Never mind that it is frequently worn by RAF personel regardless; I see them with creases ironed as per crumpled soldier 9til5.
Maybe ironic isn’t the word, but someone at HQAC inserted a load of words about not ironing creases into PCS that aren’t in the original AP.