I think we are more likely to see a guilty plea to GBH with mitigation of “they were going to try and kill me and I panicked”
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I’d offer 20s
Yeah that’s what I was thinking, plead to 20’s and offer mitigation.
Probably looking at B1 or B2 on the sentencing guidance, with the discount for a guilty plea you are in suspended sentence territory.
Luckily lawyers are incredibly humble and modest people who explain the system to normal people in simple terms without being patronising
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Bob doesn’t deserve anything less
It’s been a while since I’ve been involved in this type of thing but I’m inclined to agree that a Sec20 plea could be a way forward. However, I can’t see any way a suspended sentence could ever be given here. The public reaction would be huge.
I do feel for his family though. I suspect they have already relocated for their own protection as the great unwashed will no doubt have an agenda for “retribution”.
No chance of a bender on this job.
No, but if he can get it down to 2-3 years by the time you take into account remand and the early release scheme he will be looking at the door.
I reckon he will plead to 20’s, that they will still go to trial for the 18’s and that he has a half decent chance of being found not guilty of those, depending on which court he goes to. (Good argument for moving the trial since he will be about as popular as a fart in a space suit in Liverpool).
Move it to Manchester. Easy acquittal.
Is Liverpool still the place with the high west acquittal rate in the UK?
That’s why the. present alleged corruption trial is at Preston. Ken Dodd walked out of the court on Liverpool because no Liverpool jury was ever going to find him guilty.
I honestly don’t know, I don’t even know if they collect the data by location?
They certainly used to, all the papers made a big deal out of it when Steven Gerrard was acquitted solely due to his being the Liverpool Captain
I was always told it was one of the London Courts. Where the standard of proof was whether or not the defendant was ‘out of orda’ or ‘bang out of orda’
Someone educate me as to what…
18s and 20s are…
I assume sentencing or charge types or brackets? Or something.
Just out of interest.
Ta
Section 20 vs Section 18. GBH with or without intent. He’s been charged with both.
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Sections 18 and 20 of the Offences Against the Person Act 1861. Grievous Bodily Harm offences.
Causing GBH is section 20. It’s a reckless or malicious assault.
Section 18 is where you cause GBH, with the specific intention to cause GBH.
Proving intent is tricky, and the sentence for a 20 is much less, so most defendants will offer a 20 when charged with 18. But the trick is to not enter the plea unless you know the Crown will definitely take it.
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I’m glad I wasn’t the only person to watch that and think, he looks more panicked and scared than anything else. Obviously his actions were not (on the face of it) reasonable but his state of mind at the time could well be important.
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