Likewise Private Eyes investigation into Deepcut.
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There was also the Telegraph’s ‘Lockdown Files’ expose of Matt Hancock’s WhatsApps.
I wonder if they will get anything in the Birthday Honours for that?!
And their ‘rotten boroughs’ pieces.
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Didn’t you have an old guy who had basically never stopped volunteering since he went from cadet to staff and got the latest clasp and a big fuss, but no honour?
That is really silly of the organisation.
Your long service medal might offset the need to recognise a “basic” volunteer with a BEM, but the moment you take on any responsibility above and beyond the minimum, all free of charge and in your spare time, that clock should start counting down on recommendation for a state honour.
Especially as the charity you’re supporting is effectively a state-sponsored charity.
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This post here.
That man deserves an MBE.
At the time of this post, it was brought up on VoV that these should be a nomination for a state honour.
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That’s a point. As SCC is literally a state-sponsored charity, do their uniformed volunteers come under military or civilian awards?
When ACTO35 was around, this was in the process of being set up, certainly for a few BGA sites. I went with the then B&C Reg Av O to Cambridge Gliding Centre to look at the options for pre-authorising some BGA sites (especially ones designated as youth centres) & associated practical requirements.
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Their officers are cadet force commissioned same as us & listed under as MOD sponsored cadet force so I would say yes.
Looking on line, have found an image & it shows the military division of the MBE not the civilian one. (Military has the thin white stripe in the middle)
The sea cadets have the same legitimacy as us now days (despite what some ATC CFAVs might claim)
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Slightly off topic but found out recently from a friend who got it that the St John equivalent of the Cadet Forces Medal. The Service Medal of the Order of St John the requirements for that are 10 years with the service requirement being 60hrs a year for the year to count. Not the 12 years for the CFM
From what she says in relation to the appointment to the order if you hold any position of responsibility & do a good job and are not a complete idiot then you are highly likely to be inducted as. Member within a few years of taking an position of responsibilty although It does come down to being nominated so some areas are better than others.
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Personally the whole honours system is very out of touch with the “real-world” how many people get awards such as Knighthoods/Damehoods for simply doing their job, prime example are sporting personalities and actors. Andy Murray and Lewis Hamilton being examples. You have a specialist heart surgeon who might be on a 1/10th of their salary maybe less on the NHS who is carrying out 40 operations a year and they don’t get any recognition what’s so ever in a 30 odd year career.
In reality to a lot of Britain the honours system is relatively new most of it established in 1917 (MBE’s etc). There hasn’t been much shake up of the system but for me personally, ditch it and have 2 honours one of Knight/Dame Commander and 2nd BEM with a list of prerequisites x number of years in their role, exceeded role to x, brought x to the community/country etc etc. Don’t just give a footballer a OBE because they did their job etc a privileged award should have meaning and merit
I think I agree with you on much of that. It is also largely corrupted by politicians.
Arguably, the latter are also just doing their job…
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It really is well overdue a name change from ‘most excellent Order of the British Empire’ to the ‘Order of British Excellence’. No need to change any of the abbreviations that way.
(Just as there’d have been no need to add S’s into abbreviations if we’d used ‘aerospace’ in nomenclature rather than ‘air and space’.)
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Speaking of which, Sir Kier Starner got his for doing his job. Every DPP got one towards the end of their tenure.
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True can see your point. For me i guess its the usefulness of the job. Yes you could argue about the amount of money to economy professional sport brings in but on the flip side, they do an average thing such as football followed by broadcaster and become an OBE which I never quite understand. Be different if they were helping/coaching under privileged kids with a youth centre or something but they go from being paid £100,000s a week to £1millions a year plus sponsorship money and you don’t hear of many good news stories.
British Excellence Medal ?
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British Medal of Excellence?
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a CFAV friend of mine is on the list getting an MBE, i offered my congrats to which he replied “it is a honour to get recognised, but a complete surprise as its just doing the day job”
which proves it isn’t just the “celebrities” who get awards for just following their career path.
I do agree with you though that those in the NHS should get better recognition when you consider Armed Forces officers seem to get MBE/OBE/CBE for just going through the motions of their role (see Aunty Dawn as an example)
I will happily be corrected, but the Police have a set of medals they are eligible for, as does the fire and rescue service, but i don’t know of any for the Drs and Nurses in the NHS (I believe paramedics have a long service medal though)
but so are “Senior Officers” in the Armed forces and it would seem my CFAV friend who is a civil servant…they are only doing their job, employed by Govt - so why not the NHS? Or teachers for that matter having achieved milestones or big accomplishments
You do get people in the NHS and the medical field receiving awards such as Johnathon van Tamm or Magdi Yacoub.
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