Indeed but Keflavik and Goose Bay in the winter is an experience. Was offered Haagen Das ice creams at Goose Bay the other week when it was -10 in shelter outside, wind chill took it down to about -15 to 18 in the open. Good ice cream as well.
You can get across to South America if you stage through the Canary Islands and Cape Verde to Brazil
Off-topic, but good fun; -10C in Goose is almost summer! Experienced lower than -35C there, -40C in eastern Siberia.
Spitsbergen was slightly chilly at -25C!
Itâs not the cold, itâs the wind chill that gets me. And people complain about a little bit of frost in the UK.
Is that a 604 or a Legacy 500?
This is the sort of things that cadets if interested should be exposed too and how to get into the industry at various levels
RAF Goose Bay - above a certain wind chill factor, not allowed to walk outside alone; next level of wind chill was transport only!
Think French for the type. 
Merci beaucoup
ChapsâŚi hate to be that guy, but weâre talking about gliding being pausedâŚ
Yep, we are talking about flying in progress. 
Anyone had any news on ACTO35, Flying in Non-Service Aircraft, both powered / gliding options? With Middleton gone, maybe there is something in hand?
Some good news we have got our first gliding allocation since the end of the pause. The only down side is it at Tern hill and the round trip is in excess of 8 hours. The staff and cadets are going to have a 17 hour day.
Good job youâre not using MT transport 
Makes our 3 hour round trip to Little Rissington just a pop around the corner. Not that we have had any allocations there, we just live in hope.
We should be going to Lil Riss as it is closer to us and sqns in our wing have been there in the past.
Thatâs not how itâs working in the ATC now: there being only a few VGS flying, the RAvnOs are trying to spread the love fairly, rather than give all the gliding to those who happen to be near one of the few already flying. If you think thatâs unfair, try being a cadet in CornwallâŚ
Or in S&NI or W&W.
It doesnât help that alternative options via BGA locations are still frozen outâŚ
Kirknewton?
Hardly a day trip for a high percentage on units.
Nor it is typically expected to be and 661 does have catering and accommodation, but that brings its own rucksack of problems!
Oh indeed, distance and cadets who have exams and in holiday periods considering the number of single parents in the UK and custody arrangements and possibly both estranged parents wanting to take the child on holiday⌠That can put pressure on the cadet about going on one holiday and not the other as some parent scannot act sensibly in the childs best interest.
Somtimes it would be better to move the aircraft and staff than the cadets, something like the RAF does as a deployment or an exercise.
A looooooong time ago, our local AEF used to hop across to Bembridge airport on the Isle of Wight.
There was a Vigilant detachment to a certain MoD station in South Wales just a few years ago, shame they got cannedâŚ
