CWO: How do you address yours?

Can’t remember - such a long time since we have had one

To be honest most worth giving it to get so fed up with the over18 sign up process they push off to university by the time its done and the ones who do stay are not worth the effort.

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I do love a sweeping generalisation…

Operative word was ‘most’ - maybe should have caveated ‘In My Experience’

IME keeping any cadets beyond 18 is a rarity - have seen some outstanding examples but they are the minority.

That’s certainly not my experience, yes they don’t all stay on till 18, but I wouldn’t call the proportion that do a ‘rarity’. Perhaps the problem lies elsewhere with your unit…?

It’s often just a situational thing, depending on where you’re based.

I was a cadet at a pretty rural squadron out in the sticks, any kids who had made it to the level of being up for CWO were generally looking at university and, by logical extension of living in the middle of nowhere, moving away for uni.

However, another squadron in the same wing was in a city with a good university, so gained the 18+ cadets moving in from elsewhere, as well as retaining their own who had gone to uni ‘at home’.

A unit not retaining 18+ cadets is not necessarily at fault.

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I was at a rural unit, and yes, a lot of us would go off to University, but we would mostly come back during the holidays, If anything, it should be easier to get them back during the holidays in a rural environment because there’s not exactly a lot else to do!

C-WO, cadet warrant and cadet warrant officer seems the norm my way. Even our wing WO and DIs use the above.
I know the correct form is simply ‘warrant officer’ but I’ve never heard or seen this used anywhere.

I just look at him and talk to him, not that I see him much these days.

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“Oi, you”

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It’s dead easy really…

All one has to do is think about how one addresses and refers to other cadet NCOs.

Cdt Cpl - Address as “Corporal”
Cdt Sgt - Addressed as “Sergeant”
Cdt FS - Addressed as “Flight Sergeant”
CWO - Addressed as… (You’ve guess it) - “Warrant Officer”.

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You missed out

Cdt L/Cpl - Addressed as Corporal (just to throw off the neatness of your post, not to detract from the point :grin:)

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For you guys maybe.

For us it doesnt exist :wink:

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It does when you go on joint camps/courses so you should really be teaching the cadets that it is a RAFAC rank in basic training. We teach ours about adult RAFAC NCOs even though we don’t have them. (Tongue firmly in cheek now)

One does not socialise with the likes of the CCF so no need to teach them. :rofl:

My cadets dont normally struggle with the rank system, i had to explain to a WO (Adult!!!) that in the army they are called Staff Sgt’s not Flight Sgts. Moron.

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I had to tell a Cdt Sgt recently what an SAC was. Maybe we should remove the less useful parts of First Class (eg history of flight) and use the time to teach ranks of all services in more detail, even if that just builds an awareness.

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Except when they’re “Colour”…

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I absolutely detest C-WO

Do you wall a Warrant Officer, WO? I think not. If you did, I have no doubt they would take great pleasure in re-aligning you.

Personally the correct address should be Cadet Warrant or Cadet Warrant Officer.

No, you refer to them as Warrant Officer and, if subordinate, address them as “Sir” or “Ma’am”

As you don’t call a cadet WO Sir or Ma’am, then call them by their rank, as you do for other your other cadet NCOs and, as I resume you don’t use the prefix “cadet” in routine speech, what does that lead you to?

Never use “Warrant” without “… Officer” when referring to a rank. Put it in the same box as “sarge”, “flight” and “corp”, lock it and bury it deep.

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I have to say that on the rare occasions I’ve had a CWO (head of corps) I’ve addressed them the same as their RN or Army equivalent - Mr Bloggs.

Of course, they still call me Sir. And cadets aren’t expected to call them Sir. Although when my father went to Wellington in the 1950s the cadet RSM was Sir.

Or staff corporal.