[quote=“wilf_san” post=12474][quote=“tango_lima” post=12462]
b[/b](cough…cough…bit of a re-enactor’s BD homage, methinks: 1950s cut, turned collar facings, no cotton-drill lining, non-serge cloth… anyway, it serves a purpose in this context)
b[/b]This badge design should look familiar: as worn by RAF ORs, in 1919- 
(the ‘RFC heel-print’ shape being commemorated to this day, correctly, on our Cadet brassards: and wrongly, on Cadet No1 dress).
Although it’s educational to have picked the wearing of RN mudguards on battledress, it’s worth remembering that before/during/after WW2, a significant number of regiments and corps of the British Army wore ‘muddies and rockers’ as felted name-badges at the shoulder. This carried-through into (almost) contemporary Army No2 dress jackets, b[/b]and I’ve no idea if the brand-new Army FAD dress jackets have retained them (Talon, I bet you’ll know the answer to that one).
But as far as the RAF is concerned: all the home Air Forces of the Crown appear rightly to always have followed the dress-lead set by the RAF Regiment for modes and styles of field dress. b[/b] My money would firmly be on an eventual adaptation of the Green and Black muddie applied to the wider Royal Air Force, whenever they are now required to wear the new Most Tiresome Pattern uniforms.
b[/b]Was the following diagram I picked-up ages ago just an interim arrangement, or is it still current?
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b[/b]ps apologies for my lack of recent activity on ACC …my day-job is very intense, at the moment 
b[/b]pps an obvious question regarding MTP, and Cadet Formation Badge Branding…what are the Barmy Cadets doing for it??[/quote]
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(1)I did think that after I posted…but it made me sort of sad…
(2,)One of the reasons for the reintroduction of shoulder titles on PCS would be the fact that everyone wore them back in the day on BD, they were the replacement for the brass shoulder titles worn on the shoulder straps of the preceding Service Dress. (I’m sure you already know this but,) Service Dress ended up being the combat dress retained for ‘walking out’ (in the 1960s with the introduction of OG Combat Dress) rather than Battle Dress because it was smarter and could be made more ‘parade worthy’. This saw the death of ‘mudguards’ for most people and a return to brass shoulder titles, the exception being the Household Division, who reintroduced cloth ‘rocker’ shoulder titles in the 1990s because the introduction of the L85 meant a return to sloping arms rather than shouldering arms and brass titles were not visible at the slope.
(3) The dress regulations for the new Army No 2s have remained pretty much the same as far as accoutrements are concerned, it’s just that regiments have lost distinctive materials or cuts (and there’s now no difference in material or cut for officers and ORs). The Guards have retained their button groups, though.
(4)In fairness the RAF Regiment only put ‘mudguards’ back on combats in the 90s because of the introduction of CS95 and the loss of epaulettes. However, because of it now being regarded as a badge of qualification in the RAF and Gunners being allowed to wear their mudguards on remuster etc, I can’t see the wider Air Force adopting it as the solution. The current generation of Regiment have grown up with the mudguard as something special, in lieu of a distinctive cap badge, beret, etc…
(5)Still applies, although it’s horribly out of scale.
(6) Nice to see you again, I was wondering where you’d been only yesterday…
(7)The ACF are putting all the badges from their brassards onto the shoulder pockets, vice rank which will now be worn on a rank slide. In fairness, they aren’t supposed to wear TRFs and the Army have never felt the need to wear a big label saying ‘Army’ so they don’t really have to worry about those things.
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